Different Time Machine Problem

BDAqua wrote:

I've got good TM Bckups, but not one good restore... I can't figure out what Apple was thinking with TM!???

A dozen other backup apps don't seem to have these problems.

I've never had a restore problem, but have had Clones fail to boot more than once.

You must have angered the TM gods . . . and I ticked-off the Clone god.

None of my dozen or 2 backup apps have ever had a problem, & Tri-Backup kindly continues the backup & reports clearly any errors afterwards & gives you the opportunity to correct the problems 🙂

I truly admire your expertise & problem solving ability with TM, but my searches still find you have no explantion/cure for several of it's problems even with your great effort & expertise in this area.

TM has several nice features, but imho, it's useless for somebody that needs a continuous working of their OS, but may be nice for users without a clue to better options, 😉

BDAqua wrote:

None of my dozen or 2 backup apps have ever had a problem,

When there's a problem with a Time Machine backup, there's almost always a message (some aren't as clear as they ought to be).

Tri-Backup kindly continues the backup & reports clearly any errors afterwards & gives you the opportunity to correct the problems

That's fine for a power user, not so for many casual ones, who likely won't know what to do, so will do nothing about the problem.

TM has several nice features, but imho, it's useless for somebody that needs continuous working of their OS.

It works fine for most folks. The main problem is the lack of clear, easily-found documentation.

What you see here are the problems, not the successes.

Oh indeed, we see the problems not the successes, I fully understand & of course it is meant for people that aren't awrae of the need for backups or the wherewithall to accoplish it, & I guess I must laud Apple for the effort, but I cannot forgive them it's shortcommings... afteral they should know what is going on with their own OS!??

Also, the Star Wars display communicates nothing to me other than confusing bloat. 🙂

Sort of like turning my Wide screen iMac into what an iPhone can display in this itration of the Forums. 😟

BDAqua wrote:

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I cannot forgive them it's shortcommings... afteral they should know what is going on with their own OS!??

What are you talking about?

Also, the Star Wars display comunicates nothing to me other than confusing bloat. 🙂

You've said that many times. I fail to see what's confusing about a series of Finder windows, just like the one you had open before entering the display, showing the contents of that window at different times.

I'd be the first to agree it could use improvements (and have requested some), but it really isn't complicated.

If that's so, how come a half wit with a 6th grade education can''t use it???

You said that, not me. 😉

Most folks have problems with the display only when then start from, say, their Desktops before entering Time Machine, then can't figure out how to see the backups of files/folders in other places.

That's one of my main complaints (which Apple ignores) -- there's no Help for the Star Wars display. They seem to think it's completely intuitive. In most cases, they're right, but when it isn't, there's no built-in way for users to figure out what's what.

Tri-ede's Back-In-Time made negotiation so much easier, & yes, I did say it & it's true & not proud nor ashamed of it, 🙂

Great -- if you like it, use it. (You're the only one I've ever heard even mention it.)

But if you don't mind, some of your comments about how terrible Time Machine is really aren't helpful.

If someone is asking about which backup app(s) to use, touting your preferences is fine; detailing advantages and disadvantages is even better.

But just tossing snide remarks into a thread where someone already using Time Machine has asked a specific question really isn't appropriate.

Thanks for your help.

Glenn Boley wrote:

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I couldn't get TM to finish a (new) backup connected to eSATA - said UUIDs didn't match,

If it's the "event store UUIDs don't match" message, that's not a problem. It's just a notification that Time Machine's records don't match what it finds, so it has to use a different method to figure out what to back up.

source not found and a variety of other junk

I don't recall seeing such a message. Do you have the details?

Under FW, I will be able to complete the backup, and then switch back over to eSATA, where it will keep working. What do you make of that? (It happened before, BTW.)

Odd. Sounds like there might be some sort of intermittent problem in the eSATA chain.

Glenn Boley wrote:

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I have continued to use the eSATA connection as it is brutally faster than even FW 800.

Oh, yes, several times faster, I'd imagine.

I am using an external eSATA array as my startup drive, and the TM backup drive is connected to the same PCIe card. If there were a SATA bus failure from this card, my machine would crash - which it does not. Some things are inexplicable... ;-)

It's inexplicable without a "trail" and/or some messages, to be sure. If it happens again, grab the log messages -- there's probably an explanation, or at least a clue, lurking there somewhere.

Just for completeness; I had the same problem as you did, but I managed to solve it without trashing WMV Player. Seems the problem is some extended attributes and ACLs on the reported files of TSLicense.framework. Once I cleared those Time Machine managed to finish without errors. WMV Player also seems to work after these changes.

This is what I had to do in the terminal, but check with ls -l for other files with extended attributes or ACLs (shows up as a + or a @ respectively directly after the permissions in the list):

$ sudo xattr -d com.apple.FinderInfo /Library/Frameworks/TSLicense.framework
$ sudo xattr -d com.apple.FinderInfo /Library/Frameworks/TSLicense.framework/Versions/A
$ sudo xattr -d com.apple.FinderInfo /Library/Frameworks/TSLicense.framework/Versions/A/Resources
$ sudo chmod -a "user:root allow read,write,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,writesecurity" /Library/Frameworks/TSLicense.framework/Versions/A/SetPrefTool
$ sudo chmod -a "user:root allow read,write,delete,append,readattr,writeattr,readextattr,writeextattr,readsecurity,writesecurity" /Library/Frameworks/TSLicense.framework/Versions/A/TSLicense