Convert UPPERCASE to lowercase in Pages

petitsuix wrote:

How is your job at Google? Hope all is well..... Pages works beautifully including this Uppercase function. They did not loose functions, just reorganised.

Format > Font > Capitalize

Wrong, misspelt and utter nonsense.

Peter

Format > Font > Capitalize

Behave flawlessly but it doesn't achieve what is assumed by most users.

It just apply the style "Capitalize" which means that a string will remain stored as Thelonious Monk but will be displayed as THELONIOUS MONK. Same behavior if we trigger Format > Font > lowercase. The stored string remain unchanged but would be displayed as thelonious monk.

WordService as well as the linked webSite really change the stored string.

I ignore this kind of site because, as I am old fashioned, when I create a document I dislike to send it on the net.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 22 janvier 2012

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PS: It's time to prepare the iDisk removal so I will no longer give my iDisk link in my signature.

The app apply what it is designed to achieve.

I type Thelonious Monk so it's this string which is stored.

I decide that I want to display the string in UPPERCASE.

I trigger : Format > Font > UPPERCASE

Then the app display : THELONIOUS MONK

But as I just applied a style, the stored text remain Thelonious Monk.

If now I apply the style lowercase,

the app will display thelonious monk.

But the stored text remain Thelonious Monk.

What the app, is unable to achieve is to change the stored contents when we apply a style.

It's exactly the same behavior than the one applying in a spreadsheet.

If I type 12.3456 in the cell B2 and ask the app to display two decimal figures it will display 12.35

but if I insert =B2*10 in cell C2, the result will be 123.456 because the internal contents of the cell isn't changed by the applied style.

The external tools like WordService are useful for users wanting to change the stored strings.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 22 janvier 2012

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Yvan, isn't so that opening documents created in other format might have text in uppercase and that text can't Pages change to lower case? I think Pages does what it shold do for its own original documents.

I use WordServices quite lot to change uppercase to lower case on text taken from other applications. I mean I paste the text into a Pages document and do this.

Hi Fruhulda.

I don't know other applications behaving like iWork ones.

Those which I'm aware of, change the stored string when we apply UPPERCASE, lowercase or Title format to a string.

So, when we import these docs, the strings are stored the same in the new Pages document.

Something is bothering me this morning.

I was sure that I applied the lowercase style from Pages but it seems that I was wrong.

This morning I have only four entries in the menu :

None

All Caps

Small Caps

Title

So, if we import a piece of text in which we want to change a string from UPPERCASE to lowercase, we have no embedded tool available to achieve this goal, even with a style.

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 23 janvier 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.2

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

KOENIG Yvan wrote:

Hi Fruhulda.

This morning I have only four entries in the menu :

None

All Caps

Small Caps

Title

So, if we import a piece of text in which we want to change a string from UPPERCASE to lowercase, we have no embedded tool available to achieve this goal, even with a style.

That is what I have and my experience too.

There are three 'embedded tools" that will change the string, but only when used in a table. These are iWork's UPPER, LOWER and PROPER functions:

Regards,

Barry

Hi Barry

It seems that I met a connoisseur 😉

I was just listening the CD Monk and Coltrane at Carnegie Hall (recorded by Voice of America).

In this one, the bass was played by Ahmed Abdul-Malik.

Shadow Wilson was at drums.

There is a funny FBI ANTI-PIRACY WARNING logo on the box backside.

Back to Pages, I forgot the table's functions when I wrote "we have no embedded tool available to achieve this goal".

Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 23 janvier 2012

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I had this problem too. It doesn't seem like there is a pure conversion from uppercase letters in Pages. However I solved the problem by copying the text over to TextEdit and then under the Edit -> Transformations -> Make Text Lowercase menu I made the text lowercase. Then I copied the text back to Pages. When the text is lowercase then the Format->Font->Capitization menu works as you would expect it to.

Seems a bit like an oversight to me. It would be nice to have a transformation option in pages just like in TextEdit.

I was not aware that TextEdit had that!

You have spiked my curiosity as to what you have done.

Peter

Mine too. I don't see "Transformations" in Edit (or any of the other menus) in Text Edit.

Regards,

Barry

I'm perplexed that you don't see the menu item. Here is a screen shot from my computer. I'm using Lion. I imagine that could have been an upgrade feature, but I'm not sure.

Hi Mike,

Thanks. I learned from elsewhere that this menu item/feature was added with the version (1.7?) that ships with Lion. That explains why I (and Peter) haven't seen it.

Regards,

Barry

Barry,

I think "elsewhere" may not have been entirely correct; I have TextEdit 1.6 on Snow Leopard and that menu item appears in my Edit menu (not that I ever noticed it until I read this discussion). This version of TextEdit was apparently created about two years before Lion came out.

Jeff