Number Of Hours Of Battery Life Running Screen Saver?

Today I turned on my early 2011 2.3GHz 13" MacBook Pro. At startup it had a 96% charge according to the indicator in the Finder Menu Bar. I have the Energy Saver preference panel sliders set to never put the disk or display to sleep but "put the hard disk(s) too sleep whenever possible" is enabled. Does it cancel the computer sleep slider setting?


I proceeded to leave it running all day with just the screen saver running. Around 7:30pm I noticed that the display was black. When I plugged-in the AC adapter it said that it was running on reserve power. I'd estimate that it had been on 8-9 hours.


My question: is this a normal amount of time for the battery to last? I expected it to last longer since it was only running the screen saver. But if the disk was spinning all that time...


I have been using it for the past month or so connected to an external display with the AC adapter plugged-in 24/7. After reading Apple's suggestions for maintaining the battery I want to get in the habit of running it on battery power often enough to keep the battery in good shape.

MacBook Pro (13-inch Early 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.2)

Posted on Jan 22, 2012 7:39 PM

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Jan 22, 2012 8:35 PM in response to MisterMojo

"the hassle of waking it from sleep when using the MBP in clamshell mode"


What hassle? Just press any key on your external keyboard to wake the machine.


You can't run in clamshell mode on battery power anyway, so your AC adapter is always connected when you're doing so. Your battery shouldn't drain below 95% as long as that's true and the machine is idle. Are you saying that with the AC adapter connected and nothing running but the screensaver, your battery drained most of the way in a matter of hours? If so, are you quite sure no applications were running behind the screensaver?


If you're trying to run in clamshell mode without AC power, that's why you're having trouble. Clamshell mode requires AC power.

Jan 22, 2012 8:55 PM in response to eww

I could have been a bit clearer: I was running it on battery power.


I know that it must be using AC to run in clamshell mode. But if the MBP goes to sleep waking it from sleep does not work like it does normally. I must open the MBP, wake it up and then close it for the external display to work. From what I gather this is common when using an external display in clamshell mode.

Jan 23, 2012 4:54 AM in response to MisterMojo

I've never seen that behavior, and my MBP is in clamshell mode nearly all the time. I don't know what to say about that except that it isn't working right at all. It should be going to sleep again as soon as you close it after waking it up, and if you're using it properly in clamshell mode, you should always be able to wake it and get a display on the external monitor simply by touching a key on your external keyboard. It should never be necessary in clamshell mode to open the MBP display and use its built-in keyboard to wake it.


When the machine isn't in clamshell mode and is running on battery power, the default behavior for waking from sleep is that the machine wakes automatically when its closed display is opened. If you've changed that in the Terminal so your machine doesn't wake on opening, as I have, then it should wake on any keypress. If your machine does either of these things when running on battery power, there's no reason to invoke the screensaver. If it does neither, something is wrong with it that needs to be fixed.


When the screensaver is running, the machine is not idle. The screensaver itself is using the hard drive, the CPU and the GPU, and whatever applications you have left open are continuing to run behind the screensaver, using whatever hardware resources they require. All these things require power to run, and the battery will be drawn down while they're running. Piling the screensaver on top of whatever else is running just speeds up the drain, and running only the screensaver (after quitting all other apps) will always draw more power than putting the machine to sleep.

Jan 23, 2012 11:28 AM in response to eww

Hmmm... I have run into posts on forums where other people report similar problems when using clamshell mode. I haven't changed anything using Terminal so it is a mystery... The only thing that I can think of is that a setting in the display that is interferring with the wake from sleep process. Some NEC monitors like the one I have include hardware settings for energy-saving, etc. I'll see if I can work some magic with the display, but when I have tried doing so in the past I have had problems understanding the settings and how to make changes.


In reagrds to the battery question, I didn't know about the background processes and the screensaver, so it makes sense that the battery would run-down over time.


How do you handle keeping your battery in decent shape? Or do you routinely use your MBP in battery mode so it isn;t an issue for you?

Jan 23, 2012 11:50 AM in response to MisterMojo

I take my machine out of clamshell mode and run it on battery power for an hour or two once or twice a week. For the first 2.5 years, it was used much more on battery power than in recent months (I got an iPad three months ago and use that for most of my portable computing now). My battery is 3.2 years old, has about 200 cycles on it, and has about 85% of its original capacity remaining, so it’s in fairly good shape for its age. I expect to have to replace it sometime this year, because batteries of its vintage generally last 2-4 years or 300-500 cycles, whichever comes first. Mine has probably deteriorated more from old age than from cycling, and that will continue to be true.


Your battery is rated to retain up to 80% of its original capacity after 1000 cycles, and no one has had one long enough yet to have any real idea of its likely lifespan in years. Unless you cycle it daily, which is very heavy usage, I suspect yours too is much more likely to die of old age than excessive cycling.

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