cant use my triton as external midi instrument

I give up... not sure why your Triton is not receiving MIDI.

Under Port: you have the Triton interface selected correct, (mine shows USBMIDI Cable) transmitting on channel 1, Triton receiving on channel 1. Normally this just works.

You haven't messed with the Environment... correct.

In the Environment, are you using a Multi-Instrument that you've created? (shouldn't need one for basic I/O but if you have it may be configured incorrectly)

Have you tried recording an external MIDI track, if so do you see the notes appear on the track.

Ok?

Next make sure the external MIDI track is set to the Triton interface channel 1 (it's on the left in rthe Inspector)

All good?

Ok, next is to monitor the audio out of the Triton

I think the Duet has a function called a Low Larency Mixer you will need to activate this so you can monitor the Duet's inputs. Specifically, the Duet inputs with the Triton plugged in.

All audio will come out of the Duets Outputs.

Then it sounds like the settings on your Triton are the issue. If the menus are anything like like the Karma, go Menu > Midi > and set midi channel to "1" and note receive to "All". As your midi out cable is obviously ok, also make sure your midi in cable is also properly connected.

lazyone wrote:

thx for the answer pancenter... sorry for the delay I was out of town for the week-end.everything looks set like it suppose to. I looked what you told me and everything looks fine... except no sound :S

As a test, plug headphones into the Triton and see if you hear anything when the MIDI trac is played back.

Make sure the External MIDI track has the Triton USB interface selected in the inspector (on the left).

Also see Loude's suggestion.. I would add, the Triton probably has a couple of Modes, a Multi-timbral mode that can use several instruments at once and a single play mode. Make sure you're in the basic, single play mode.

P.S. you're monitoring all audio with either speakers or headphones through the Duet correct?

Local OFF is not the problem. Local OFF disengages the Tritons "Keyboard" from it's "Synth" engine, with Local set to OFF the Triton can only play it's internal synth through the MIDI connection. Basically, Local OFF prevents note doubling when using the the Triton (or any keyboard/synth) as a Master controller with a MIDI sequencer. Not only would the Triton trigger the note, but it would be receiving it over MIDI and doubling the note.

It does show you're not receiving... 1. MIDI through Logic... or 2. The Triton is not set to receive MIDI IN through the USB connection.

Usually, MIDI is a no brainer with Local OFF being the biggest confusion.

This sounds familiar, it seems to me someone had a similar problem a couple of months ago. Let me check.

I still think you don't grasp the Duet's Low Latency Mixer, it should let you monitor the Triton drirectly through the Duet and not Logic's software monitoring.

Read this article, the Low Latency Mixer splits the inputs, 1/2 goes to recording the other 1/2 goes directly to the main and headphone outs.

http://support.apogeedigital.com/help/duet2/pgs/low_latency_mixing.html

Make sure the mixer is set to monitor the correct inputs.

I have an old Korg N1. I know this sounds simple and may not be your problem. But with my korg, To send midi I have to turn local off in the Korg. If Im sending midi to an external midi track , in order to to play it back. I turn local back on. Now logic's external midi track sends the info back to the korg. now the instruments in the korg go out to the audio out of the korg into an audio track of logic. OK PC you can beat me up now. Bill

I wonder if "Lazyone"'s problem is similar to mine:

I want Logic to play the actual sounds my Korg Triton generates, but not as a slave instrument to Korg being the Master, & I don't want to record an audio track. I want to be able to work with the MIDI information in Logic with Logic actually generating the same sounds I was getting in the Triton.

I love the sounds Triton generated for me (the pre set sound patches), & I started writing many songs based on those sounds. Many of those songs need allot of note corrections, velocity adjustments & quantizing I prefer to use Logic for. The ever slight changes made in the vast amount of MIDI information for each particular sound can make a big difference for each sound, and the same changes don't work for every sound, so when I tweek that information with one sound, it sounds totally different & ineffective with another.

When I transfer a MIDI track's info from my Triton into a Logic project track, I only get the MIDI info, & not the particular sound Triton was generating that I wrote that particular track with. It's devistating when the major, & even minor litte effects the Triton created for that sound are gone.

Logic seems to support Roland, & a few other popular MIDI sound programs, but not Korg (or at least not Korg Triton).

Any clues on how I might get to generate Korg Triton sounds, or how I might find the adjustment information for each sound Triton's been generating & copy those settings into Logic and easily recreate them somehow? Or some easy way to transfer MIDI info back & forth so I can fix what I want in Logic, & then transfer it back to the Triton, & then when I'm satisfied with the final results, open up an audio track in Logic & record it as audio info?

I prefer the easiet route of transfering all the 225 songs I have recorded on floppy disks from the Triton over to Logic & have Logic recognize that same info & be able to generate the exact same sounds the Triton was generating, automatically.

JTBizartist wrote:

I wonder if "Lazyone"'s problem is similar to mine:

I want Logic to play the actual sounds my Korg Triton generates, but not as a slave instrument to Korg being the Master, & I don't want to record an audio track. I want to be able to work with the MIDI information in Logic with Logic actually generating the same sounds I was getting in the Triton.

Logic cannot generate the same sounds as your Triton. The Triton has a very complex hardware synthesizer inside of it loaded with copy protected samples that can only be used in the Triton. You have to record the audio or run the Audio Outsof the Triton into an audio interface and treat it as a channel strip using an external instrument plugin. Logic by itself cannot "create" the Triton sounds.

You do not understand what MIDI is, it's only small bits of data describing a "Performance", in this case it's describing your performance on the Triton keyboard. MIDI has nothing to do with sound, it's merely a "trigger" to play a sound and describe how the sound is plated... the note, how long the note is held, the velocity....etc.

JTBizartist wrote:

I prefer the easiet route of transfering all the 225 songs I have recorded on floppy disks from the Triton over to Logic & have Logic recognize that same info & be able to generate the exact same sounds the Triton was generating, automatically.

Uhhh...... Dream on. 😝

At one time someone had created something on the Korg site (or someother Korg related mediumd, I don't remember exactly) to download into Logic to manage this very thing, but then it dissappeared. I was hoping (yes, dreaming) something new had come along.

I thought I understood MIDI, and was under the impression the MIDI information would trigger the synth programs in Logic to manipulate the same way, generating the same sounds. Certainly if the Triton has synth ability un matched, then I'm $#it outta luck (for now. It's still a recurring dream AND I'm still open to creative options I haven't heard yet, or being talked through to understand).

Thank you for your committemnt, Pancenter.