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iphone 4s 16gb shows 13.6gb why?????

Apple has determined that they dont want to follow the norm and correct description of a megabyte or gigabyte even tho this is not like fashion u cant change what megabyte or gigabyte is so i dont see the point in changing something that confuses the layman who generallu does not know what a byte or bit is.....

but nevertheless Apple has chosen to confuse the layman..... when a customer asks for a quantity of something he doesnt expect to see a different figure and then be told sorry its just the way i do my math.....?? math should be the same worldwide.... and megabytes and gigabytes should be consistant around the world in their description as they are physically, for the benifit of the layman who knows nothing about this when he asks for a 16gb iphone.... he expects to see on his phone that the company that sold him the phone and has even in this case defined the standard by which it measures, that he should see that the phone reflects the capacity under which it was sold to him...... 16gb.... not 13.6, which is 2.4 gigbyte short of 16gb and even 2gb short of the standard by which apple measures by.....?????????? of course just to clarify the calcualtion you can alll read it here.... http://www.tuaw.com/2009/08/29/snow-leopard-the-new-one-gigabyte-now-slimmer-tha n-before and it is not like they have not had time to make sure the hardware follows this new measurement, no.... this was decided 3 years ago..... Apple math on the new gigabyte does not follow on the new iphone 4s..... it is supposed to be 16gb..... but the iphone 4s shows 13.6gb so if you take the fact that apple is refering to 1gb as 1000,000 kbytes then if you times 1024 by 16 to get the actual figure it is 16,000,384 but because apple have dropped the '24 in 1024 to get the figure apple uses we take away 384 from 16,000,384 leaving 16,000,000 then we divide that by 1024,000 which gives us 15,625,000

so the actuall figure on the iphone 4s for a 16gb memory capacity by apples new 1gb math, should be 15.6gb

SO APPLE WHERE HAS MY 2GB GONE.......

Even by your own math APPLE this product fails to meet its own description under the trade descriptions act.....

Your Customers have been ripped off by 2GB..... the iphone 4s has actually got 14gb in it not 16gb....

the stupid thing is that it doesnt matter how you want to calculate the megabyte or gigabyte in the end... what matters is that if you sell a phone that claims to have 16gb of memory then really i dont care about the .6 of a gb displaying all i care about is that my phone just says.... it has a capacity of 16gb and that i can use all 16gb..... how it is calculated i dont give any hoots let alone 2....

iPhone 4S, iOS 5.0.1

Posted on Feb 18, 2012 1:14 AM

113 replies

Apr 19, 2014 6:12 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

Exactly. Unless people want to live in anarchy instead of paying tax and a phone without any operating system, they can go ahead.

Apr 19, 2014 6:21 AM in response to boboatpoint

Ok let's put it that way apple expert.

I want 16gb capacity, usable, sole use, minus the

Jibba jabba.

No matter what you say I know it's common sense that

Hardcore apple geniuses refuse to comprehend.

Use 4gb for all the jibba and 16gb or whatever

For my memory.

By the way I have done 3 1/2 year computing to comprehend.

People who spend the hard earn 9-5 get it.

You don't cause you're in the bubble my friend.

Apr 19, 2014 6:31 AM in response to Takeitasumay

You do realize this is not an "Apple" issue right? Every mass storage device will show the exact same discrepancy.

Apr 19, 2014 6:34 AM in response to stedman1

If they really have problem with apple, switch to Samsung and you will be pleasantly 'surprised'. Have fun withy the 4 GB avg available space of it.

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Apr 19, 2014 6:40 AM in response to Takeitasumay

By the way I have done 3 1/2 year computing to comprehend.

You just confirmed what everyone has trying to explain. You claim 3.5 years computing yet your comprehension of the issue indicates perhaps 0.3 years of comprehension. Where did the other 3.2 years go?

Apr 19, 2014 7:24 AM in response to Takeitasumay

Takeitasumay wrote:

By the way I have done 3 1/2 year computing to comprehend.

People who spend the hard earn 9-5 get it.

You don't cause you're in the bubble my friend.

Well, don' apply to MY company for a job if that's all you got out of 3 1/2 years. I have interns with 3 month's education who know more than you.

Jul 5, 2014 8:58 AM in response to Lawrence Finch

you say that 16GB is 14.9GB in base 2, Pagal is asking why his phone has a capacity (maximum storage space) of 13.6gb, now, considering the fact that i'm 19 and have no technical experience in this category, (recently completed a college course about games development, a total shambles btw) i understand what he's trying to say.

14.9GB is the total capacity of a 16GB device when it is measured in base 2, this wasn't disputed. what was disputed was the capacity of the internal memory, Pagal states that his 4s has a capacity of 13.6GB, he also states that he owns other apple products that state the capacity as (what he would think is) normal e.g. a 64GB ipod stating its capacity as 64GB (seems wrong to me as no storage device is truly what its advertised to be as previously stated, I'm guessing its measured differently) his 4s stated its capacity as 13.6GB, 16GB in base 2 is 14.9GB which means there is 1.3GB missing, this could be taken up by the OS and pre-installed apps as most of you have stated however as pagal stated, a capacity of something can never change e.g. say you have an empty 10 liter bucket, you fill 2 liters of it with water (this being the OS) then add another 4.5 liters of water (apps and such things added by the user) there is 3.5 liters of space left but the total capacity is still 10 liters. What pagal is trying to say is that the OS and pre-installed apps shouldn't change the total capacity which means the phone isn't stating the capacity that his phone should have.

If the 4s doesn't take the OS and pre-installed apps into account when displaying the devices capacity then it should state so.

Aug 8, 2015 4:52 AM in response to pagel

I only just caught on to this issue. I found this thread because I wanted to know whether some of the internal memory of my iPhone 5s (nominal 16GB, reported actual memory in "About": 12 GB) had gone missing.

I understand the idea of the difference between binary and decimal calculations of 1GB and how the OS and other static bits of memory use exclude some of the storage from use by the user. I get all that. What I don't get is why the pointy-heads don't see the problem of having 2 systems of measurement. Remember the international space probe that failed because the Europeans boffins used metric and the US geniuses used imperial measurements, and nobody on either side of the pond noticed? Until it all went pear-shaped and somebody worked it out, that is. It was never reported, but I bet some heated words were exchanged across the ditch.

This is not on the same level of critical importance, but it illustrates the consumer-relations issue. If you're going to market one system, you should have the metrics in your system ***do the conversion internally*** so that what the user sees is what they expect to see. It only takes a short bit of programming to insert a binary-to-decimal converter, and a little more to add the static bits to the notified use. When the user sees 16bn bytes (give or take a rounding-up), then sees that X bytes are used for processes (a), (b), (c), (d) etc, so that Y bytes are left over, the manufacturer no longer has a PR problem. But if it takes research and collar-heat dissipation devices to find out that devices are marked in decimal GB but do their internal reckoning on binary GB and hide what is used for indispensable OS use, you have a PR problem, not a tech problem.

Trouble is, pointy-heads don't "get" the problems the rest of us have with what seems "obvious" to them. So we get consumers feeling duped and ranting, while techies get insulting about their intelligence. The consumer may have just as much intelligence, but their "personal OS" just works a little differently. OK? Geddit?

iphone 4s 16gb shows 13.6gb why?????