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MS Sans Serif font missing

I receive a regular club bulletin which is in MS Sans Serif.


When I open it with Pages I get a warning that MS Sans Serif is missing, and I replace it with Microsoft Sans Serif.


But, neither before or after replacing it, is the pagination as the author intended. It is not the same as when opened in LibreOffice for example.


Is there any way I can download MS Sans Serif and have Pages use it?


Or any other way round this problem for Pages? or do I have to use LibreOffice


Thanks

Posted on Feb 24, 2012 10:52 PM

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Feb 26, 2012 3:28 AM in response to Mike Boreham

As far as I know, if MS Sans Serif is not available on your mac (which is normal) it will not behave better than Pages.


M…oSoft itself dropped MS Sans Serif in Windows Seven.

If you search on the net, you will find sites offering the named font but, as they required a registration I didn't downloaded it.


Here are quite every monospaced fonts which I installed here.

Maybe you will be interested by some of them :

Andale Mono (659 glyphs)

AurulentSansMono-Regular (267 glyphs)

Consolas (2731 glyphs)

DejaVu Sans Mono (3161 glyphs)

Droid Sans Mono (612 glyphs)

Free Monospaced (2576 glyphs)

Latin Modern Mono 10 Regular (740 glyphs)

Latin Modern Mono Light 10 Regular (740 glyphs)

Latin Modern Mono Light Cond 10 Regular (740 glyphs)

Liberation Mono (663 glyphs)

Menlo Regular (3157 glyphs)

monofur (675 glyphs)

Monoxil (275 glyphs)

OCR A Std (270 glyphs)

Prestige Elite Std (374 glyphs)

TeX Gyre Cursor (1242 glyphs)

Tiger (1388 glyphs)

Tiger Expert (1172 glyphs)

Verily Serif Mono (244 glyphs)



Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) dimanche 26 février 2012

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Feb 27, 2012 6:10 AM in response to Mike Boreham

Hi Mike


The author of the bulletin *may* be using MS Sans Serif for match results (chess) and league tables in the newsletter because it is a fixed width font. That is, it'd let him/her set out tables of data so that they line up vertically. If you do suggest the author use another font, and this is why MS Sans Serif is used, you may need to suggest a fixed width font that's available on both platforms eg Courier, etc.


Cheers.


Dale

Feb 27, 2012 6:46 AM in response to Dale Gillard

Hello Dale


It would be a very good advice because, as I wrote, MS Sans Serif is not available in Window 7…


Here I repeat my list of mono spaced fonts because :

(1) yesterdays I forgot some available ones

(2) I striked monofur because FontBook report some oddities in this couple of fonts.


Andale Mono (659 glyphs)

AurulentSansMono-Regular (267 glyphs)

Chicago (433 glyphs)

Consolas (2731 glyphs)

Courier New (3151 glyphs)

Courier Std Medium (374 glyphs)

CPMono_v07 (361 glyphs)

DejaVu Sans Mono (3161 glyphs)


Droid Sans Mono (612 glyphs)

Free Monospaced (2576 glyphs)


Inconsolata (359 glyphs)

Inconsolata-dz (294 glyphs)

Latin Modern Mono 10 Regular (740 glyphs)

Latin Modern Mono Light 10 Regular (740 glyphs)

Latin Modern Mono Light Cond 10 Regular (740 glyphs)

Liberation Mono (663 glyphs)


Menlo Regular (3157 glyphs)

Monaco (1678 glyphs)

monofur (675 glyphs)

Monoxil (275 glyphs)

OCR A Std (270 glyphs)

Prestige Elite Std (374 glyphs)

TeX Gyre Cursor (1242 glyphs)

Tiger (1388 glyphs)

Tiger Expert (1172 glyphs)

Verily Serif Mono (244 glyphs)


I'm a bit puzzled by the problems reported upon monofur because it's available since year 2000 thru dafont.

User uploaded file


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 27 février 2012

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Feb 27, 2012 7:14 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

Thanks everyone.


I feel the "solutions" are potentially disproportionate to the problem!


I started the thread thinking that it might be a simple matter of installing MS Sans Serif in OSX/Pages once, and thereafter I wouldn't have the minor annoyance of opening this bulletin in LibreOffice to get the pagination right when printing it out.


Anything involving editting the document each week in Pages, by substituting fonts or moving page breaks is a non starter option, compared to the simple LibreOffice method. (In spite of saying that, I did try the other suggested fonts and page breaks but couldn't get Pages to display the pagination right).


I realise I have had the benefit of inputs from world experts in Pages, for which I am really grateful, but there obviously isn't a simple apply-once solution (or even an apply-every-time solution).


I am quite sure the person doing the bulletins has no idea why he is using MS Sans Serif. The fact that it has been dropped from Windows 7 is a good reason for suggesting he uses a different font (eg Courier as Dale suggested), but from other things I have learned here, this is no guarantee that the pagination will be correct when Pages opens it.


Thanks again for the inputs.

Feb 27, 2012 8:15 AM in response to Cattus Thraex

I apologize but you are wrong.


May you tell me where ?

Apple deliver : Microsoft Sans Serif.ttf

User uploaded file

which is not a monospaced font.


The list of fonts delivered by Lion is available at :

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5098?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US


The fonts delivered with M…oSoft Office are :

Abadi MT Condensed Extra Bold

Abadi MT Condensed Light

Andale Mono

Arial Black

Arial Bold Italic.ttf

Arial Bold.ttf

Arial Italic.ttf

Arial Narrow

Arial Rounded Bold

Arial.ttf

Baskerville Old Face

Batang.ttf

Bauhaus 93

Bell MT

Bernard MT Condensed

Book Antiqua

Bookman Old Style

Bookshelf Symbol 7.ttf

Braggadocio

Britannic Bold

Brush Script.ttf

Calibri Bold Italic.ttf

Calibri Bold.ttf

Calibri Italic.ttf

Calibri.ttf

Calisto MT

Cambria Bold Italic.ttf

Cambria Bold.ttf

Cambria Italic.ttf

Cambria Math.ttf

Cambria.ttf

Candara Bold Italic.ttf

Candara Bold.ttf

Candara Italic.ttf

Candara.ttf

Century Gothic

Century Schoolbook

Century

Colonna

Comic Sans MS

Consolas Bold Italic.ttf

Consolas Bold.ttf

Consolas Italic.ttf

Consolas.ttf

Constantia Bold Italic.ttf

Constantia Bold.ttf

Constantia Italic.ttf

Constantia.ttf

Cooper Black

Copperplate Gothic Bold

Copperplate Gothic Light

Corbel Bold Italic.ttf

Corbel Bold.ttf

Corbel Italic.ttf

Corbel.ttf

Curlz MT

Desdemona

Edwardian Script ITC

encodings.dir

Engravers MT

Eurostile

Footlight Light

Franklin Gothic Book Italic.ttf

Franklin Gothic Book.ttf

Franklin Gothic Medium Italic.ttf

Franklin Gothic Medium.ttf

Gabriola.ttf

Garamond

Georgia

Gill Sans MT Bold Italic.ttf

Gill Sans MT Bold.ttf

Gill Sans MT Italic.ttf

Gill Sans MT.ttf

Gill Sans Ultra Bold

Gloucester MT Extra Condensed

Goudy Old Style

Gulim.ttf

Haettenschweiler

Harrington

himalaya.ttf

Impact

Imprint MT Shadow

Kino

Lucida Blackletter

Lucida Bright

Lucida Calligraphy

Lucida Console.ttf

Lucida Fax

Lucida Handwriting

Lucida Sans Typewriter

Lucida Sans Unicode.ttf

Lucida Sans

Marlett.ttf

Matura Script Capitals

Meiryo Bold Italic.ttf

Meiryo Bold.ttf

Meiryo Italic.ttf

Meiryo.ttf

MingLiU_HKSCS-ExtB.ttf

mingliu_hkscs.ttf

MingLiU-ExtB.ttf

MingLiU.ttf

Mistral

Modern No. 20

monbaiti.ttf

Monotype Corsiva

Monotype Sorts

MS Gothic.ttf

MS Mincho.ttf

MS PGothic.ttf

MS PMincho.ttf

MS Reference Sans Serif.ttf

MS Reference Specialty.ttf

msyi.ttf

MT Extra

News Gothic MT

Onyx

Palatino Linotype Bold Italic.ttf

Palatino Linotype Bold.ttf

Palatino Linotype Italic.ttf

Palatino Linotype.ttf

Perpetua Bold Italic.ttf

Perpetua Bold.ttf

Perpetua Italic.ttf

Perpetua Titling MT

Perpetua.ttf

Playbill

PMingLiU-ExtB.ttf

PMingLiU.ttf

Rockwell

Rockwell Extra Bold

SimHei.ttf

SimSun-ExtB.ttf

SimSun.ttf

Stencil

Tahoma

taile.ttf

TaiLeb.ttf

Times New Roman Bold Italic.ttf

Times New Roman Bold.ttf

Times New Roman Italic.ttf

Times New Roman.ttf

Trebuchet MS

Tw Cen MT Bold Italic.ttf

Tw Cen MT Bold.ttf

Tw Cen MT Italic.ttf

Tw Cen MT.ttf

Verdana Bold Italic.ttf

Verdana Bold.ttf

Verdana Italic.ttf

Verdana.ttf

Wide Latin

Wingdings 2.ttf

Wingdings 3.ttf

Wingdings.ttf


MS Reference Sans Serif is no more a monospaced font.

User uploaded file


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 27 février 2012

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Feb 27, 2012 9:04 AM in response to KOENIG Yvan

What is MS REFERENCE Sans Serif? there is no Reference here, it is MS Sans Serif pure and simple.

As far as I remember MS Sans Serif has been a constant component of any Mac OS x installation over the last decades. I have always had it in the basic installation set.

PS. I have just had a look at my daughter’s new mini with Lion preinstalled, MS Sans Serif is of course there.

Feb 27, 2012 9:25 AM in response to Cattus Thraex

(1) I repeat, Lion install MicroSoft Sans Serif, not MS Sans Serif !

Is it so difficult to look at the list delivered by Apple ? (I gave its link).

User uploaded file

(2) I wrote :

The fonts delivered with M…oSoft Office are :

Abadi MT Condensed Extra Bold

MS PMincho.ttf

MS Reference Sans Serif.ttf

MS Reference Specialty.ttf


I assumed that it was clear. Isn’t it ?

User uploaded file

(3) A quick search on the net would teach you that many users searching for MS Sans Serif.


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 27 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

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Feb 27, 2012 10:33 AM in response to fruhulda

Hello Fruhulda


I'm a bit puzzled. In the first messages the font was described as monospaced but it's described as proportional in the linked web page.

In an other page I saw that it was resembling to Tahoma which is proportional too.

So, at this time, there is only one thing which is sure :

MS Sans Serif is not the same font than Microsoft Sans Serif (Most of the time I don't write the name of this company but I made a typo in my late message so it's fair to write it correctly this time) 😉


Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) lundi 27 février 2012

iMac 21”5, i7, 2.8 GHz, 12 Gbytes, 1 Tbytes, mac OS X 10.6.8 and 10.7.3

My Box account is : http://www.box.com/s/00qnssoyeq2xvc22ra4k

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