Transfer purchases to another ID

You have to get her password it is the only way! And I think the only way to completely restore the device two original. I think she has to erase the device. There is someone out there I know who can answer this question perfectly. I will find out and get back to you if you do not find out before I do let me know thanks

Bill

You have to get her password

There is no way anyone should give out their password - ever.

This is aside from the fact that purchases are tied to the Apple ID used to obtain them and the licenses are NOT transferable.

He was speaking of his sister who gave him an iPad and he wanted to keep the apps that came with the iPad. And I told him the only way he can keep the Apps is to use her password she will not give it to him. So she has to erase the iPad before she gave it to him. That is what she should have done, and he could purchase the apps himself.

1. That was back in 2012. I doubt Lan will come back to answer you after 5 years.

2. The password would only be needed to update the Apps, not to use them.

3. babowa's answer is indeed correct. There's no reason to be giving out the password, nor should someone suggest they do so. The Apps did not belong to Lan then, and they would still not belong to him now.

He was speaking of his sister who gave him an iPad and he wanted to keep the apps that came with the iPad

It really makes no difference whose apps they are - it is still violating the licensing agreement to try to use someone else's apps.

Of course, as she is loaning it to Lan there is no requirement to wipe it, as babowa pointed out:

“Licensor grants to you a nontransferable license to use the Licensed Application on any Apple-branded products that you own or control. “ As Lan said, Lan’s sister still owns the iPad: “she has purchased many apps, now, i'm using her iPad” (Note: it is her ipad, she owns it, and loaned to her brother.)

You can loan your ipad and let somebody use it as long as you still own it or control it. Isn't that in the agreement? Why do you say: "it is still violating the licensing agreement to try to use someone else's apps." ??? When in fact: “Licensor grants to you a nontransferable license to use the Licensed Application on any Apple-branded products that you own or control. “ please don't spread mis-information.

Do you really think if somebody writes a letter on my computer I should wipe all the apps before I let them use my keyboard?

As long as I own or control the computer I can let someone use it and the apps.

If I sell the device, however, I should clear it.

Well, we (including bab) certainly are not lawyers. You pulled a fragment from a paragraph which does not apply to apps; it is about the ios system software. That could mis-direct people. The whole paragraph:

Thanks for that reminder; it had slipped my mind completely.

@ ibgb:

Some apps are iOS software as they are installed as part of the iOS. And, I was quoting from the Usage rules, not a transfer as a proper transfer had not occurred. Apps purchased separately have their own licensing agreement as Michael Black reminded us.

This is my last comment here.

I am surprised this topic was not properly addressed by Apple!

If I pay for an APP and wish to pass it on to my son or whoever later when I no longer need it should be completely in my control to do so. This transfer should be possible from within your apple ID account. It is so "secure" only the true Apple ID owner can log into their account and transfer this, right? Or not? What if my wife dies? Do her purchased APPS die along with her? How could this possibly be considered stealing if I were to "Transfer" my dead wife's APPS that were paid for, to my account? It is not like two people are using this APP which would be considered stealing, but only one person.

It is absolutely ridiculous that a sophisticated company like Apple can't wrap their bright developer minds around this and see this obvious flaw that APP (license) transfers should be and need to be possible!

You don't 'buy' apps, you buy a license to use them, the license is not transferrable. It is the standard distribution method for most software (music recordings too) in the world today.

Giving it away is stealing it.

DoNotKnwoWhatNameToChoose wrote:

I am surprised this topic was not properly addressed by Apple!

If I pay for an APP and wish to pass it on to my son or whoever later when I no longer need it should be completely in my control to do so. This transfer should be possible from within your apple ID account. It is so "secure" only the true Apple ID owner can log into their account and transfer this, right? Or not? What if my wife dies? Do her purchased APPS die along with her? How could this possibly be considered stealing if I were to "Transfer" my dead wife's APPS that were paid for, to my account? It is not like two people are using this APP which would be considered stealing, but only one person.

It is absolutely ridiculous that a sophisticated company like Apple can't wrap their bright developer minds around this and see this obvious flaw that APP (license) transfers should be and need to be possible!

Apple has nothing to do with it. Individual app developers own their intellectual property - not you, and not Apple. Those developers grant you, for a fee, a limited license for you to use their intellectual property. That license does not give you any rights nor expectations to be able to transfer it to anyone, ever, under any circumstances.

Apple distributes third party aoftware, but they don’t own it and they are also bound by legal limitations in what they can and cannot allow their store customers to do with property that is actually owned by others.

This idea that you own the software you use is just simply wrong. You purchased a use license, and that license has strict and legally enforceable terms. One of which is the categorical “non-transfer” of said license.

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, legally you are absolutely right, but how do you personally stand to this? Do you think transfers should be possible despite the vendors terms?

"Apple has nothing to do with it. Individual app developers own their intellectual property - not you, and not Apple. Those developers grant you, for a fee, a limited license for you to use their intellectual property. That license does not give you any rights nor expectations to be able to transfer it to anyone, ever, under any circumstances."

Yes, you are legally correct, but is Apple not the distributor of these Apps, does Apple not police the Apps prior to hitting the store, are the products that are used for the APPS not from Apple? Apple has a lot to say when it comes to APPS and I truthfully suggest that Apple should take a stand for their Users and maybe incorporate this option as it is a logical one, one that would allow the users to not waste money and possibly have more of it for future Apple product purchases.

...and to all fathers Happy Fathers Day!

I am and have been in the music business my entire life. My stance is simple, your giving music away is stealing from me. And software is the same.

How would you feel if individuals kept stealing from you

I stand fine with it. If you want innovative software, then people need to be able to make money from their intellectual property. I have no problem with limited use licensing of software. Without it, the App Store would be a far more barren place.

Either that, or expect prices of apps to skyrocket as that would the only way small third party developers would have any chance of actually making money.

And Apple itself adopts the exact same licensing model with their own software. It is in fact, a very nearly universal consumer software licensing model (the other being software subscription licenses), and has been so since the very early consumer PC days in the 1980’s. There is nothing new or novel about the licensing of software from the App Store. The only novel thing nowadays is, in the absence of distribution on physical media, there are actually ways for developers and software distributors to enforce licensing and distribution and thus protect what they have produced.

Yes, legally you are absolutely right, but how do you personally stand to this? Do you think transfers should be possible despite the vendors terms?

It does not matter how anyone anywhere stands personally on this issue. Legal terms are legal terms and a personal opinion won't change them.

FWIW, most developers do not "sell" software - you are only buying a license to use it. It is therefore not yours. And, you agreed to those terms when you bought the license.