Is siri on iPad 3?

I was hoping for Siri too, since I don't own a 4S.

But, would Siri really be that useful on a wifi iPad? Seems to me that nearly all the current beta features are best used over cell networks, movies, maps, restaurants, handsfree-on-the-go. What's left? Reminders (no geofencing), Wolfram alpha lookups, and setting calendar events and timers to bake cookies?

And those remaining features are cool and all, but I think maybe apple just looked at that feature set and thought "we need to add more to this first to make it really useful". And that's probably going to happen down the road. Maybe in iOS 6.

Guy's it is really a issue of mobility. The Iphone is a mobile device and as such requires things like siri to help show users what is around them etc. the Ipad and ipod are really non mobile devices, the ipad now has 4g/3g but there is still a wireless only model which means a huge chunk of users that have the wireless model dont need siri because she cant be used outside of your wireless bubble making her a chunk of dead weight on the ipad and ipod

for that reason voice dictation (which you can use to search your music, apps video and now possibly the Internet) is the only tool the ipad needs.

In a hurry your are more likely to pull out your iphone more than your ipad to ask siri something.

I agree that it would have been something extra apple could have thrown in to sweeten the deal but voice dictation is siri just without the location support.

Siri is heavily location based so Ipad wifi would be crippled vs all the other ipads. Second of all Siri would not work when you are not connected to the internet.

Apple wants a consistent user experience across its product line. The only way it would ever get Siri on is if they required a data plan with every Ipad and killed off the Ipad wifi completely which I don't think anyone wants.

That's the Real puzzler to me. Dictation requires a web connection, according to Engadget.

"Update: (...) Moreover, the Voice Dictation feature here requires a web connection, which leaves us even more baffled at the omission of Siri. With Airplane mode toggled on, the microphone button on the keyboard simply vanishes. In practice, Dictation picked up our phrases perfectly, even in a crowded room that was simply buzzing from random chatter."

http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/07/apple-new-ipad-hands-on/

I'm stumped as to why they'd leave it out, though I still expect its release... say around this fall, when Google's "Assistant" starts popping up on tablets?

Huge dissappointment for me, I was ready to buy one until Siri was excluded. I realize with the wifi model you may not always have an internet connection but you do with 4G. Tim Cook just made his first big mistake.

I have an iPhone 4s and have been using Siri and i believe that Siri does not run speach recognition on the mobile device. It sends your voice to central servers and returns the interpreted text. When a wifi or cellular data connection is not available Siri does t work. So processing power of the iPad should not be a issue.

The new iPad has slightly more processing power than the iPhone 4s. I agree that it has to use more processing power to run the larger display at Retna resolution but there should be no reason why the new iPad cannot run Siri.

Maybe it has more to do with scaling up their central server power to deal with all of the new devices Siri would run on. The thing that leads me down this path is the fact that only partial Siri functions are implemented outside the USA. For example in Canada you cannot get Siri to initiate a maps search. It just says maps is not supported outside the US. I have to open maps manually to key in the search. I can however use voice dictation rather than typing the search.

If you have an iPhone and new iPad wifi model you can enable local hotspot on your iPhone to get iPad dictation working when you at outside your home wifi bubble.

Do you have a link to backup the claim that the A5X chip has more processing power than the A5? The A5S is a 2 core CPU, just like the A5. It is a 4 core GPU, unlike the A5. That does not automatically mean it has more processing power.

There is an article out today that leads me to believe that folks with cellular data plans may curse their 4G iPads. It can use a month's cellular data in 10 minutes if you are not careful.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technology-blog/apple-officially-reveals-ipad-yes-pr obably-going-want-214507105.html

If you read through the link provided by

deggie it explains abit how audio processing

is handled by the A5, so we can assume the A5x is the same

http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=57371624&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-264

I have an iPhone 4S in Australia and find Siri virtually useless due to the lack of location data. I'm buying a wifi only iPad and wouldn't use Siri on it if it was there. Apple spruiking a piece of technology on the iPhone 4S that is only useful in the United States was a serious mistake, which would only be compounded if they repeated the mistake for the iPad. Useful voice control of personal computers and other devices is clearly the way of the future, but I think Apple need to do a lot of work on Siri before rolling her out further makes any sense.

iPad#user wrote:

Just when you think Apple can't get any more infuriating -- they do stuff like this. Is there ANY logical reason that Siri was not included on the new iPad? 😠

After stroking, patting, caressing a flat electronic device, my philosophical reason for not having Siri would be that I do not want to be seen talking to that flat electronic device as well.

In 5 yrs, we will all be talking and waving at our devices. But we are only a couple of steps down that path. Relax and enjoy the drive. I don't want to talk to my big flat device either, but I played around with evi, sort of a Siri halfway replacement, and I can see the future. We will get there, but it wil take several evolutions.

I watched an original star trek episode the other day. Scotty walks into the room and says "computer what is...." and it answered. We are getting there.

pjl123 is on the right track.

There is no mystery here. No misguided logic on Apple's part, either. Siri just wasn't ready yet. Simple as that.

All the things that are "wrong" with Apple products (bugs, missing features, half-baked implementations) are all caused by the same problem. Apple doesn't have enough qualified programmers to do what it (what we) need done. Simple matter of resource management. Apple makes decisions every day about what hole gets plugged next with what resources they can afford to throw at it. They've known long before iOS 5 was done when iPad was going to ship, and you can bet they were trying to get Siri ready. They just didn't make it. They wouldn't (couldn't) hold up shipping iPad for Siri. But you can bet it'll be here by Christmas if not before, though. They'll sell another bundle then.

iPhone shipped with as much Siri as they could get gone (they're calling it "beta"). iPad is now shipping with as much of Siri as they could get done for it (they just couldn't dare call it Siri while it does less than iPhone's Siri).

Of course iPad will have Siri. Every flavor of iPad. Sure, Wifi iPad won't be quite as "Siri-us", but that will still be a huge selling point for it. I'll want it on my Wifi 'Pad, that's for sure. I won't upgrade my Wifi 1 to Wifi 3 without Siri. I imagine many will be waiting.

More over, wait for it my geeky brothers and sisters: every Apple device will have Siri! Mac's too. Can you imagine the market share gain Apple will get when we can all talk to our Apple devices, and they, in turn, will be "talking" to each other via iCloud. This is Apple's vision, people, Steve's vision no doubt. But Steve always wrote checks that his programmers had trouble cashing. Let's hope Tim can drive them just as hard so we don't have to wait too long!

To quote another poster on some forum I was in today: "I want my TOASTER to have Siri!" You can bet: Apple does, too... 🙂

That is a glorious Star Trekesque, paradisiacal, Apple future, but right now it hinges on something that no one outside of Apple can confirm until the new iPad ships and that is whether or not the iPad 2+ (my own moniker for the device) has the Audience technology that allows SIRI to function properly and is incorporated into the iPhone 4S. Until the iPhone 4S, no iOS devices incorporated this tech.

I have had the iPhone 4S for four months now and my experience using Siri on a daily basis is that it does not work very well in normal situations, if you do not use it while having the phone up to your face. As you would with a telephone call. It does not work well with the phone on a desk or in your lap as I use my iPad 2. Siri often does not "hear" you clearly and so cannot clearly understand what you have said when the phone is not up to your face. No one that I know wants to use an iPad that way.

The Audience technology allows Siri to distinctly hear and understand what is being said in normal noisy situations by identifying the important sound, the user's voice and filtering out everything else. Similar to the way our brains allow us to focus in on someone's vioce in a noisy situation and follow the conversation. Without the ability to do that, Siri is drastically hobbled and almost useless. And that technology is in a state currently where Siri functions best when the device is up by your face. Apple does not own this technology. Apple licenses the tech and pays a royalty on every device that uses it. Apple is not going to throw royalty money in the gutter on technology that will not work yet on the devices that folks are demanding have it. And you all know that Apple wants perfection, it has no intention of making Siri a part of anything more than the latest iPhones, until all of the technology that combines to make it work is available for the differing situations in which iOS devices are used.

Siri is not yet ready for prime time, no matter how much everyone wishes it to be. So the bottom line is that if something that you never heard of six months ago is the only reason for buying a new iPad, then it is not the device for you and you likely would be happier with another device. However, none of them have it either.