New iPad - 4G Frequencies 700mhz and 2100mhz useless in Europe?

For now they have only announced 4g for USA and Canada. and yes the Verizon is 700 mhz 4g while the at&t is 700 and 2100 mhz.

But Apple is advertising 4G also in germany without excluding it.

Also a guy from the Apple Store (telephone) told me it will work in germany.

If it is not working, in my oppinion this would be a deliberate deception!

Apple should give a clear statement on this whether it works or not.

AT&T is doing that very thing in the USA. That is how they are trying to compete with Verizon by calling their HSPA+ 4g.

People today with iPhone 4s on AT&T upgraded to iOS 5.1 and suddenly their phones said they had 4g signal even though the 4s doesn't have LTE antennas. AT&T is pawning off HSPA+ as 4g

You are seeing the problems that come up almost every time there is a new communication protocol used in draft and initial form. Sprint has been advertising a 4G network for a couple years, even though the protocol was in VERY draft form and there actually was no true 4G network. We saw this with teh IEEE 802.11n amendment to the wireless protocol, used in draft for two years by companies, with a lot of equipment released that was not compliant with the final protocol...and that stuff is still in use and causing big problems for many users.

While 4G is being advertised, just saying 4G doesn't tell the whole story. One needs to understand how that protocol is being applied by consumer hardware and the carrier. Are they in reality matching up as they should. It is not deception but application of a protocol that has options in it that can be picked and chosen for an individual application.

Ok, now that actually would be deceptive practice 😐

I was being too fair before.

I guess they can call it 4g or 5 g whatever they want but AT&T has only limited LTE in certain cities in the USA. Verizon has many more cities with LTE but AT&T is trying to boast that they have the largest 4g network. That may be so but Verizon has the largest LTE network.

The new iPad can use 1G, 2G, 3G and 4G networks.
This means that the new iPad will use whatever network signal is available up to and including 4G networks.

Check out the specs here: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

You can therefore even use your iPad on GSM or EDGE networks, but that Internet connection is frustratingly slow. From personal experience I suggest that you use your iPad in an area where at least a 3G network signal is available for comfortable Internet surfing.

Buyer beware!

Unfortunate part of advertising is that the consumer isn't going to (average consumer that is) look at the specs of the hardware, specs of the service offered, and determine that they are actually what is claimed. That is why we have standards and protocols, but still suppliers can and do cheat.

I have Verizon which is great on the East Coast of the US, visit places in the Midwest and find signal-dead spots. So the consumer has to evaluate where they will spend the majority of their time and figure out which supplier best serves them.

And it hs annoyed me for years that my chosen carrier does not support the standard in use in Europe, and I get hit with roaming charges there, but what can you do? Can't change carriers very easily every time you go somewhere.

Anyway, just some random thoughts.

Verizon Phones won't even work outside of the USA. the rest of the world is on GSM. Verizon is CDMA

Maybe the iPads they roll out for Europe will have different antennas. They certainly have different ones between the 2 US carriers. I'm sure Asia has a different set up too.