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Edward Level 1 Level 1

Could someone tell me how to remove a list (be it a numbered list or a bulletted list) from Mail?


I know how to stop the numbering (hit return twice) but to remove the list entirely... no idea! I've tried reducing indent etc. but without success. Control shift return simply adds a carriage return without reducing the indent.


All thoughts gratefully received. I've searched on-line and in the forums but with no success.


Thanks in advance!



Mac Pro, PowerMac G5, Intel macbook pro and (aged) Powerbook G4, Mac OS X (10.7)
Solved by ThomasRussell on Nov 9, 2013 3:34 PM Solved

Hi all,


I believe, having run into this problem myself this morning, that the solution is as follows:


  • Make the relevant bulleted line the last line in the list (see below).
  • Select the whole line (see below).
  • Select "Decrease indent" from the Format > Indentation menu (or hit "[").


To select the whole line, triple-click anywhere in the line.


To make the line the last line in bulleted list, move the cursor to the end of the line and hit "Return" twice.




Reply by Daddyo21 on Jun 20, 2013 12:19 PM Helpful

Hightlight the list where you want to remove the bullets. Cut the highlighted section. Click on a line that is unformated with bullets. Paste using "Paste and match style" which is under Edit

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  • leroydouglas Level 6 Level 6

    Highlite and delete. 


    Command-Z will also undo last command.

  • Edward Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Leroy,


    Thanks for the tip but I only want to remove the bullets - not the whole text!

    Command-z doesn't remove the bullets - it'll merely undo the last bit of typing...


    There are work-arounds - I can cut the text in each bullet and then paste it outside the bulletted area... then go back and delete the bullets. However that seems like a crazy thing to need to do. What I'm asking is this: is there a way to remove the bullets entirely whilst retaining the text.


    The same question/need arrises if you want to remove a bullet from only one of the list (say, the last one). If you forget to double-return (to exit the list) and you end up with one too many in the list, it's not possible (unless you cut/paste and then delete) to remove the bullet.


    Thoughts gratefully received!


  • CT Level 6 Level 6

    Good question!


    There has to be an easier/better way... But you can select the list, convert it to Plain Text (Format menu) and then eliminate the bullets by your favorite method (just delete them, search and destroy, etc.).  Then convert back to Rich Text. 



  • Lyle Turner Level 1 Level 1

    This has been a longstanding pain and asked elswhere in various forms.


    I've found no simple resolution to it other than:

    1. to select and cut the text
    2. click to a non-bulleted line
    3. then cmd+shift+v OR  "Edit > Paste and Match Style" in the menu


    This will paste the text with that loctions style. (you will lose any specific style you had in the originally selected text)


    I cannot for the life of me understand whay Apple wouldn't allow the 'Decrease List Level' function to apply toward 'decreasing' the list to 'nothing'. It seems like an elegant solution to a trade-off problem (you might want only one bullet for some reason)

  • davewhughes Level 1 Level 1

    Is that it? - no help from Apple on this?


    It is somewhat ridiculous that if you create a bullet, you can't get rid of it. This is really basic text editing stuff.


    Sometimes I do wonder what is going on in Cupertino.


    Can someone please advise on how to resolve this issue effectively and why with successive updates to the OS certain basic things don't get any better?

  • Akitaguy Level 1 Level 1

    I'm having exactly the same issue, what a stupid option and can't be undone. What the **** is Apple doing??

    Why would they put an option that isn't undoable?


    BUT I did find a work-around, copy your email message into "TextEdit" then click on same drop down that created the bullets in the email and you will see an option of "none" remove the bullets and then re-copy the message back to the email.


    Why Apple did it this way is anyones guess, Apple thinks it doesn't have to answer to anyone, kinda like Microsoft.  APPLE START PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FOLKS THAT BUY YOUR PRODUCTS!

    If I have to dig around to resolve stupid things then I may as well switch to Linux and not have to pay for software.

  • davewhughes Level 1 Level 1

    You clearly encapsulate the frustration that I feel too. A useful

    tip, thanks, but it's absurd when you have to go to these lengths to work around quirks in the software implementation.

    Why would Apple do it this way and why would they keep doing it and are they listening?

    Personally I do not find these quirks endearing, just a pain. Apple do really need to iron this stuff out now, there are many examples e.g. no arrows in edit, no drag and drop in iTunes etc.

  • Akitaguy Level 1 Level 1

    When you make 100 billion you don't need to listen until that 100 billion disappears, by then its to late.....Microsoft...

  • elvines Level 1 Level 1

    Try "Control + Enter" instead of "Enter" at the end of the line. This does not bring the bullet over to the next line.

  • Edward Level 1 Level 1

    Hi Elvines, thanks for the tip, however, all this does is removes the bullet but retains the indent. To remove the bullet on the next line, you can also simply hit return twice. The issue I have is removing *all* the bullets i.e. I've made a bulletted list and have decided I no longer want it... how do I delete the bullets but retain the list? All thoughts gratefully received!


  • davewhughes Level 1 Level 1

    This does work but it does not solve the basic issue of when you create a piece of text with a bullet you just cant get rid of the bullet. All I want to do is to de-bullet a line - it seems next to impossible without lots of cutting and pasting

  • elvines Level 1 Level 1

    I am just sharing and learning along the way. Hope what I can think of helps.


    How about copying the content with bullets, remove the last undesired bullet. Then do a "shift+option+command+v". Then "command+f", paste "", tick Replace, click "All".

  • elvines Level 1 Level 1

    Hope this give the result you are looking for. Go to the previous line of the line we hope to de-bullet and "Control + Enter". Then "Delete" once.

  • Edward Level 1 Level 1



    I really appreciate your efforts - but nothing you're doing is removing bullets from all the bullet points - it's either removing finishing a list (this can be achieved by double-return) or adding a non-bulleted but indented line. If you're able to take, for example, a bulleted list of 5 bullets and then suddenly to have *no* bullets on the list, then please reply - that's what we're all after and nobody has a solution *within* Mail.



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