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PPC G5 Quad 2.5GHz Thermal Calibration

Hi


I have two G5 Quads - One is a 2005 build year and the other is a 2006 build year CK618- - - - - - - - -)


Both machines run lovely


I have a DVD that a Apple Technican gave me from a servicecentre

It is a Apple Therimal Calabration workshop disc 2.6.3 especially for the PPC Quad 2.5GHz


I have a problem when calibrating the one machine. (serial number CK547- - - - - - - - -)


It comes up with this a warning:


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I have taaken the Plastic Air Door on and off now during end of test when it says above - The Red & Yellow & Green lights come on (above the Ram at side of Ram slots) - so it knows the plastic door is off - the Large INTAKE Aiir Fans slow down in front of Radiator.

When the Plastic air door is put back on - the fan speed up again. (in test mode see pic above)


I have also put in other Large INTAKE Aiir Fans ( I have purchased 5 of these which I have in the store room - in case a unit went down)


This has no effect - I still get the message.


All the other tests - using this Apple Workshop Disc 2.6.3 - ALL PASS with flying colours


PS - The machines ARE MINT INSIDE - and when I say you could eat your dinner I mean it - theres NO DUST (they are just like they ahve come out of the box - They are always on sleep - I start them up once a week for about 7 hours. They Sleep well - when asked (No Panic Kernals)

They are just fine - except the above problem.

PS - The above machine used to pass this test.

Theres NO collent leaks (Both machines have the Last Panasonic Cooling System MK3) see pic


Has anyone got a fix.


Thanks

kk69

PowerMac, Mac OS X (10.5.8), G5 Quad 2.5GHz - 16GB Ram (2006)

Posted on Apr 21, 2012 3:04 AM

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Apr 28, 2012 3:28 AM in response to Kentuckykid69

Kentuckykid69 wrote:



I just want to get to the bottom of this - Why does it not complete the programme (it did about 3 months ago)



I'd say something wrong with the SMU if resetting it didn't help. If you really, really want to get to the bottom of this, you have to educate yourself in three areas at least: open firmware programming (forth), to understand how the OF interacts with the PMU/SMU; electronics, to measure the fan related stuff using an oscilloscope - the front fan rpms would be easy to rig, ie. to see the real rpms and judge whether it's the smu driving the fans too fast or just getting the rpm values wrong somehow; PowerPC assembly language to get some understanding of the workings of the service diagnostics disc in order to see whether the content of the error message has any relation to real events.


Joking aside, there's loads of references to bugs in the ASD discs causing the error, and no solutions. I talked about these things some months back with a couple of service techs. They had never seen calibration fail on logic boards that weren't toast to begin with.


Japamac tells it like it is.

Jan 2, 2013 9:04 AM in response to Kentuckykid69

Other people reading this post


See link:


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1922153?answerId=9082266022#9082266022


The Above post was called - You need to type this into the search box:

The ultimate G5 fan problem: CPU Intake Fan speed error



Other G5 users have the same problem - I am still trying to get to the bottom of this minor problem - there must be a fix


IF ANYONE GETS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PROBLEM - PLEASE LET ME KNOW


Cheers

Jan 3, 2013 11:32 PM in response to Kentuckykid69

Thermal Calibration MUST be run in a controlled enviorment. This means the ambient temperature can't be stuffy or warm in the room where calibration is running. Best to run calibration in a cool part of the house or building. Even the slightest rise in the room's ambient temperature can create the effect that the processors have overheated when running thermal calibration.


I believe the Service Guide also mentions that Thermal Calibration must be run in a controlled setting, not in a warm, stuffy place.

Jan 4, 2013 2:01 AM in response to romko23

Romko23


I thank you for reading the thread I started - much appricated.


I totally agree - our offices are climate controlled.


That said - why do people get this message

"CPU Intake Fan Speed Error - Check the inner door is secure"


As said -

the inner door is secure

All fans are working perfectly

The Air Deflector Sensor Board & Cable - are working fine (The lights come on when the plastic air door is removed)

G5 Fans run normal when machine is working in office mode (after Calibration)


The reason I started this thread - is that so many G5 PPC users have had this simple problem. There has to be a cure & reason.


I have also noticed as we have 5x G5 2.5GHz PPC Quads in the office - you can Thermal Calibrate them as often as you like & all complete the cycle - and you never ever get this message " CPU Intake Fan Speed Error - Check the inner Door is secure & in place" on them - its only x1 Machine that does it.

Why - I just dont know ?

Jan 4, 2013 11:36 AM in response to Stygimoloch

Stygimoloch


Thanks for the reply to this post


For those reading this post I have encluded pictures of where this "Air Deflector Sensor Board" is located

Is there a way of testing it ?


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BUT HOW COME WHEN THE PLASTIC AIR DOOR GOES ON THE x3 Warning lights go out ?

surley it says the sensor is working ?


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As I have the Apple workshop manual for these machines - pictures might help you


QUESTION: IS THERE ANY WAY OF TESTING IT - WITHOUT TAKING IT OUT !


Cherrs

PPC G5 Quad 2.5GHz Thermal Calibration

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