OS 10.7 Lion the slowest system ever - have I done something wrong?

How much RAM do you have? I tried to upgrade too, and it said I needed 2GB if RAM. I can't even upgrade to it. Hmm might be worth checking out?

dobura wrote:

Either I've got something set up terribly wrong (but 10.6 worked amazingly), or this is the worst system Apple has ever put out!! HELLPPPP!!!

OS X 10.7 is certainly Mr. Hyde to Snow Leopards Dr. Jerykl.

You have a few options:

1: Erase and install Lion fresh, which should be a bit faster, but still you may have problems with third party software as a lot (especially Microsoft) and not Adobe's stuff isn't tweaked yet for Lion. Also your still going to have other issues with Lion, the RAM hog etc.

2: Erase and install Snow Leopard and be happy again.

How to revert your Mac to Snow Leopard

Jeremy Sykes wrote:

How much RAM do you have? I tried to upgrade too, and it said I needed 2GB if RAM. I can't even upgrade to it. Hmm might be worth checking out?

dobura wrote:

on a 2.53 GHz 4GB/500GB Macbook Pro (1.5 years old).

dobura wrote:

I have 4G already, which is the max they sell on the new machines!! don't do it! Also, you'll lose access to a lot of programmes you already have, as PowerPC is no longer supported.

Don't do what?

dobura wrote:

thanks!! yuck!! all i can do is wait for hopeful improvements!!! Why oh why do people always spoil a good thing??

ds stores inability to get Lion to run normally is not the experience of others!

You have some incompatible 3rd party software. The easiest way to identify it would be to run Activity Monitor, set it to show "All Processes" and sort by CPU. Take a screen capture and post it.

dobura wrote:

thanks!! yuck!! all i can do is wait for hopeful improvements!!! Why oh why do people always spoil a good thing??

Well 10.7 is a fully 64 bit operating system and your older programs are not updated for it.

http://roaringapps.com/apps:table

I think Apple's rapid OS release cycle is wrong, they should simply scrap the whole OS X upgrade process for 90% of their users and perhaps the 10% who can afford to and know what their doing to allow them to upgrade.

People should be able to use the OS X version that comes on their machines until the hardware expires.

Most Apple users are just that, users. They can't be expected to be all computer geeks.

Developers want to write software once and then tweak it for bugs only and then sell as many copies as possible, it's hard to do this when Apple keeps changing the OS X version every year.

Cant' find a Scrabble game for OS X, but it's on Windws 7. Why is that?

20% of current Mac users are still on 10.5 and 10.4, Apple is not supplying security updates and there is a 600,000 strong botnet of compromosed Mac's out there.

dobura wrote:

I have 4G already, which is the max they sell on the new machines!

Your hardware can support 8GB of RAM, Apple likely only stated 4GB as at that time 8GB modules wasn't on the market yet.

Unfortunatly you have only two RAM slots, so the 2-2GB modules will have to go for 2-4GB modules to run Lion a bit better.

Also, you'll lose access to a lot of programmes you already have, as PowerPC is no longer supported.

Yes, we know. Apple didn't inform anyone they were going to break a lot of their software, the boards were flooded here with people wanting to revert to 10.6

It's dumb moves like this from Apple that is annoying their customer base and they are seeking a more stable option with a 10 years supported Windows 7 machine, who can blame them?

I've heard you can take your machine into Apple and they will revert it back to Snow Leopard if you complain loudly enough. Don't know if that still stands true or not.

You also could hire a local PC/Mac tech to do that and also create a backup system, clones, and check your Wifi and other issues.

sorry about your trouble, but it's Apple living it it's own reality distortion field.

Hi Dobura, I would seriously recommend that people do not upgrade from Snow Leopard to lion but do a clean install using either a utility to burn a lion install DVD or use the Apple downloadable USB utility. I found Lion truly horrible and buggy after upgrade on my 2011 MBP and also after upgrading RAM to 8 GB. Maybe even worth waiting for Mountain Lion as I can only summise that the reason for this swift move to Mountain Lion is because even Apple think it's rubbish.

If you have more than ten or so files or folders on your Desktop, move them, temporarily at least, somewhere else in your home folder.

Disconnect all wired peripherals except keyboard, mouse, and monitor, if applicable. Launch the usual set of applications you use when you notice the problem.

Step 1

Launch the Activity Monitor application in any of the following ways:

☞ Enter the first few letters of its name into a Spotlight search. Select it in the results (it should be at the top.)

☞ In the Finder, select Go ▹ Utilities from the menu bar, or press the key combination shift-command-U. The application is in the folder that opens.

☞ If you’re running Mac OS X 10.7 or later, open LaunchPad. Click Utilities, then Activity Monitor in the page that opens.

Select the CPU tab.

Select All Processes from the menu in the toolbar, if not already selected.

Click the heading of the % CPU column in the process table to sort the entries by CPU usage. You may have to click it twice to get the highest value at the top. What is it, and what is the process? Also post the values for % User, % System, and % Idle at the bottom of the window.

Select the System Memory tab. What values are shown in the bottom part of the window for Page outs and Swap used?

Step 2

Launch the Console application in the same way as above, and select “kernel.log” from the file list. Post the dozen or so most recent messages in the log — the text, please, not a screenshot.

If there are runs of repeated messages, post only one example of each. Do not post many repetitions of the same message.

Uninstall Kaspersky according to the developer's instructions, reboot, and see whether there's an improvement.

dobura wrote:

CPU results - kav, a root user, around 100% usage the whole time ... I'm guessing thsi is the culprit - Kaspersky AntiVirus? But I updated it correctly.

Updated or not, you have the culprit.

This is the #1 reason I continue to recommend people avoid anti-virus on the Mac. No one - not even once - has been able to show that Mac malware is as damaging and virulent as Mac anti-virus software. Until that happens, all I can say is get rid of the anti-virus. The cure really is worse than the disease.