Waves Renaissance Compressor Bad News...

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Waves Renaissance Compressor Bad News...

I just got off the telly with Waves tech support. According to the tech, the
Renaissance compressor doesn't work on midi instrument plug-ins. What
I've found is. It works to an extent. You have to do everything by ear because
the gain reduction meter is inaccurate. On audio tracks however it's brilliant.
Anyone know of any good compressors that work well with midi instruments?
Thanx
FB III

Imac g5 1.8ghz, Mac OS X (10.4)

Posted on Mar 7, 2006 5:09 PM

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Answer 1

Mordant

Level 1

60 points

Mar 7, 2006 5:12 PM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

r u talking about software synths or external midi modules?

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Answer 2

Mar 7, 2006 5:25 PM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

If he's talking about software instruments I'm kind of surprised because I have seen no difference between how RC works with Soft Instruments and Audio Tracks. I still can't reproduce the behavior of the gain reduction meter you cited in your last thread when inserting on an audio instrument track. Anyone else had any dificulty with RC on instrument tracks? We don't want to give Waves a bad rap here.

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Answer 3

Mordant

Level 1

60 points

Mar 7, 2006 5:27 PM in response to Steve Horner

RC (and the rest of Waves, UAD, URS) has always worked on my software instrument tracks.

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Answer 4

Mar 7, 2006 9:33 PM in response to Mordant

There is a file on the Waves site called "Renaisance Meters Fix for OSX." You'll need to access your user account in order to download it. I found it in the V5 downloads.

Not sure if this will work in 10.4x!

HL

G5 Dual 2.5 Mac OS X (10.3.5)

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Answer 5

Mar 7, 2006 9:47 PM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

I can only tell you that my Renaissance Comp works perfectly with
midi instruments!

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Answer 6

Mar 7, 2006 9:52 PM in response to Stonegate

Good catch Hank. I just installed the update. Subtle, but now that I have the update I can see that the meters were giving an inflated value of attenuation. Francis, you obviously have an eye for subtlety. : )

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Answer 7

mattrixx

Level 3

945 points

Mar 7, 2006 10:22 PM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

You have to do everything by ear because
the gain reduction meter is inaccurate.

Funnily enough, I generally do everything by ear. The meters are secondary! 😉

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Answer 8

Mar 7, 2006 11:16 PM in response to mattrixx

Ren Compressor working great here.

There was undeed a meter bug related to one of the ProApp Updates awhile back, but one of the Tiger updates ended up fixing that before Waves got to it.

On a side not, I haven't heard a peep out of Waves regarding Intel Macs.
Anybody know anything??

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Answer 9

Mar 8, 2006 8:31 AM in response to Mark the Williams

Correction, on Logic's internal sounds it works fine. On third party plug-ins
the metering is incorrect. I use the gain reduction meter in conjunction with my ear. The meters fix is for 10.4.2 and earlier. Never the less I installed
it anyway to no avail...
FB III

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Answer 10

Mar 8, 2006 10:04 AM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

This is a curious topic - I'm wondering how Ren Comp could even distinguish between a softsynth and any other audio source. By the time it gets to Ren Comp, it's all just buffers of audio data.

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Answer 11

Mar 8, 2006 11:32 AM in response to tele_player

Hi Tele Player,
Im not sure how this is happening. But Im sure that it is happening. When you
load the Renaissance compressor on a third party plug-in instrument. Fisrt look
at the the threshold. You'll notice that even at 0.0db the gain reduction meter
shows attenuation. When you load the R compressor on an audio, or an internal Logic instrument with the threshold at 0.0db you'll see that the gain reduction
meter shows no attenuation. For me accurate metering is cruicial. I hope they
correct this. Check it out...
FB III

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Answer 12

Mar 8, 2006 11:42 AM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

By the way guys Im not trying to bash Waves. I think their a stand up company.
But since the Renaissance compressor is so popular, and this is a Logic forem.
I was hoping to find someone with an answer. I apologize if I've offended anyone...
FB III

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Answer 13

Mar 8, 2006 12:38 PM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

I can't load it, I let my WUP On Waves Gold expire, now it would cost hundreds to get it working again.

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Answer 14

Mar 8, 2006 12:59 PM in response to tele_player

I feel you. I bought it online for $200. According to Idan at Waves their QA's
are on it. Hopfully the problem will be resolved in an update...
FB III

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Answer 15

mattdean

Level 1

111 points

Mar 8, 2006 2:37 PM in response to Francis Batiste Iii

You should always try to get your updates and other products from a local Waves dealer. Online they charged $200 for the update and locally I got it for $145!

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