iOS 5.1.1 update.

Go search iPhone forums or iPad forums oh please... ⚠ This is so old..

One type of upgrade induced bricking which has the highest frequency of occurence (within the set of bricking cases) is the case where I mentioned above. In subsequent tries, iTunes already assumes is not working after failed updates. This may/may not be fixed through iTunes by preventing iTunes from pre-determining whether the device is ready for an update or not.

Anyway iOS upgrades don't include a rollback in cases of failures.

Czicks wrote:

"I don't have to, just Google it" is such a blowoff answer. The truth is there is no proof that Apple updates are causing any significant issues rendering devices broken. The only expecptions you'll find are exceactly that, exceptions. You want to spout otherwise, the burden of proof is on you. Until then, the silence is deafening.

Honestly, what's your problem? You are reading far more into his post than is actually there. You may not agree with his position, but from a general technology standpoint what he is saying has some validity. He clearly stated that such failures are not the norm. We all understand that. But for a user experiencing the issue, not being the norm does not mean much. I personally don't think not updating is a necessary action, but it is an option for any user.

James Ward4 wrote:

, but it is an option for any user.

The point I'm driving towards, maybe I digressed too much... 😕

To me, well maybe I'm prudent, or maybe I'm always looking in at things from 'half the glass is empty' kind of mindset especially on tech.

Encrypted11 wrote:

James Ward4 wrote:

, but it is an option for any user.

The point I'm driving towards, maybe I digressed too much... 😕

Perhaps, but I certainly don't think so. Most of us in IT are quite familiar with the idea of a waiting period before taking an upgrade to a platform or system. Change always introduces risk, even when it is confirmed that it fixes an issue. With OS and iOS, I think the risk is relatively small, but certainly there.

I am responding to your quote:

"Bottom line is I don't see computer updates bricking or semi-bricking the device itself. Why should you run the risk of bricking the device in the case of iOS devices?"

This paints a picture that upgrading iOS devices poses a risk and that the user should be wary. The point is iOS devices are not more likely to brick than PCs or Macs during firmware updates. Any device is capable of having such issues.

Risk is basically a variation of outcome, it is true that upgrade isn't risk free.

On the second point regarding your interpretation, I think you read me correctly. Bottom line is the nature of iOS updates such that it is run in an arbitary approach (not sure if I used the right word) because rollbacks cannot be triggered. Rollbacks serve a purpose too.

I hope you get the message. These guys out there with bricked devices from upgrades bricked the device unintentionally/intentionally because the device doesn't revert back to its last healthy state when it is experiencing an error preventing the update from proceeding. My personal advice is don't peform an upgrade unless you really have to. That's the last thing I'll look at - at least for me.

Czicks wrote:

I am responding to your quote:

"Bottom line is I don't see computer updates bricking or semi-bricking the device itself. Why should you run the risk of bricking the device in the case of iOS devices?"

This paints a picture that upgrading iOS devices poses a risk and that the user should be wary. The point is iOS devices are not more likely to brick than PCs or Macs during firmware updates. Any device is capable of having such issues.

Yes, any device is capable of such a problem. That includes iOS devices. And no one is saying that theynare more suseptible to such issues than other platforms. The additional risk with iOS is that is very difficult to roll back changes, especially compared to other systems. You're just arguing yourself into a corner here. All he is offering is that waiting on an iOS update is a viable course of action. Not the only choice, but a logical one available to any user.

I am also having problems on ipad and iphone. Luckily, my wife's ipad isn't upgraded to the new software and still works! My iphone cannot connect on GPRS or Wifi. I have had vodafone change the sim but it does not resolve the issue. In any case, it cannot be the vodafone network as my work Blackbery and my wife's aAndroid both work fine in places my iphone doesn't - both on vodafone! Bad timing as my wife is due to upgrade soona nd thinking of iphone.

Hi,

Yesterday you had posted something on my query on iphone 4 update on ios5.1.1.

unfortunately it was removed and i was not given access to read your post

thanks friend

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