Undo/Redo lists and buttons?

True, Fruhulda. Thanks for chiming in. It's mainly the lack of the complete undo/redo lists that's an issue for me.

Though FWIW, moving away from your document window up to the Mac menu bar, clicking Edit, moving down to Undo, then either unclicking or clicking again, isn't nearly as speedy or convenient as just tapping an undo button right there at the top of your doc -- which you can do in fast succession if necessary. Again, I normally use the keyboard. But at times prefer a button.

PeterBreis0807 wrote:

Simple.

I never did a typing course.

Well just two weeks at Auburn Adult Education, but couldn't stand the class's twin topics for discussion: knitting and babies.

HA! Thanks for the laugh, Peter.

Yeah, I never took a typing course either, I just settled on the natural positioning by typing endlessly (being a writer, and former programmer). I know what they teach though, as I was curious after a while to compare my method to the standard, since I touch type pretty fast. If you type a lot, and are interested in the best ergonomics, consider trying the usual method: use your left pinky for Tilde, Tab, Caps Lock, Shift, Control, 1, Q, A, and Z (and sometimes Option). And your right pinky for the rightmost keys. I'd guess your pinky muscles might be tender if you've not used them for typing much, but after a brief period you should find typing's significantly easier, faster and more comfortable.

...Or, skip right on ahead to advanced work, and start knitting baby shoes.

Or the best method:

As I mentioned, I wasn't taught. I simply used the term "touch typing" as shorthand for typing efficiently without having to look down at the keys.

It's a challenge to write with any speed and keep up with one's thoughts any other way. Just as it's hard to play piano with any skill if you have to look down at the ivory and think about every note, or if you don't use your fingers in the most practical manner.

Moreover, the normal typing position for hands and fingers is the most ergonomic, which is the relevant point since you brought up ergonomics. Given this fact, the cut & paste shortcut combos Windows uses are uncontrovertibly more efficient and ergonomic than those Apple uses. MS got this one better than Apple. (Though it may have been unintentional on both their parts. I don't know.)

I thought this was a perfectly amiable chat, but your last comment is out of left field and unwarranted (smiley face notwithstanding). We were preoccupied with spelling, grammar, the state of the world around us, doing things pragmatically and safely, and learning to be respectful in conversation. 🙂

Oh, and apparently irony.

But we learned that chiefly from the British.

In that case, I won't spoil your views by correcting your grammar and punctuation in any of the above posts. 🙂

That's a sincere smiley, I meant that as good-natured jest. Of course I agree our education system isn't what it ought to be here, overall. But lest we get even farther afield, we'll leave it at that agreement.