New to Apple, frustrated with menu bar

Well, I think milew had a fair question. Like him, I'm working on an new iMac.

Unlike him, I've been mac based since MacPlus, and I would like to see this question answered, not how to go into smaller, full mode.

As a reminder, the menu bar has the apple, the menu selections, and importantly to me dropbox, capture, date time and a few other items I watch regularly.

I would like to think that we are still able to see all included, in full mode, expanded to the 27" monitor

Is that possible??

Milew,

I'm thinking, as you, that by hitting the double angled arrows - to expand the screen... should have.... displayed the complete menu bars, as far as I can tell it's WYSIWYG.

Use this as a work around, until hopefully they'll corret this mistake:

Go to your screen, com control F. Just as in a PC, mouse over the right margin, and resize arrows appear. Drag to enlarge for width, mouse over bottom horizontal margin to get resize arrows and enlarge height.

As other windows, most can be resized in the same manner.

It's a work around, but for those with the new mouse, or touch pad, defeats to a degree the scrolling / docking features, as you end up with the screen saver background.

Hope this helps.

Full screen is a New option so you now have a choice.

I use the desktop as a desktop with dock, menubar and multiple windows the size I want. I can drag a window out to just under full screen size if I wish and keep the menubar etc.

Full screen is just that, the window covers the whole screen so no dock & no menubar.

If I hide the dock in normal mode it appears, at least on my mac, in less than a second.

S.

How about taking off your windows hat and actually learn how to use your Mac rather than just complaining about it. This may come as a surprise.... Mac and Windows OSs are different.

You have been given links to the Apple help sites and other ideas which could help if you bothered to access them

The forum isn't for ranting. It's here to try and help Mac users who want help from other Mac users.

Read the answers you have been given.

See Ya

Bye.

Ashka, no, the question was not answered. If you think if it has, please, why are there so many questions, that began with Lions release, with the same query in a google search about full menu bar problems, that have persisted since 2010, or the release of Lion?

Bottom line for bottom liners: I am used to seeing the full menu in all my programs. I'm not using the computer for a hobby, but a business. I've only had the iMac for a day, and see this issue a disappointment, because I see when someone's called on Skype if I've walked away, or someone put something in drop box, as well as seeing the time right there without mousing over.

ADMIN: Apologies for being verbose, it unfortunately comes out of frustration, both from changes, and self appointed ex spurts. Feel free to delete this message.

As you have addressed your post to me I'll reply.

I also used to use Windows computers from 94/95. but when I decided to purchase my Mac in 2004 I also purchased the (Panther) Missing manual to learn how to use my purchase. 800 + pages later I joined this forum to learn more ~ Not to complain.

I thought I had made my answer quite clear . You can have full screen without the Menubar and Dock or you can spend a minute and manually resize your windows and keep both. I do not write the software I just use OSX 10.7.4. every day.

I still can and do use Windows computers at times. I prefer my Macs.. as does my 26 yr old granddaughter who is still using my 14" iBook.

Please use the links you have been given by others and try learning how to use your Mac rather than upsetting other users who are just trying to help you & other newbies...

Changing hats is normal. Excel > Numbers. Word > Pages. Power point > Keynote. XP SP2 > OSX.10.3.

With Safari NOT in fullscreen I can drag the sides and make Safari fill the entire screen. You should be able to do this. In this mode I see the menu. I have the dock set to automatically hide, so I dont see the dock unless I move my pointer to the bottom. When I do the dock appears immediatly. (less than a second).

With Safari in fullscreen mode. I cannot see the menu unless I move my pointer to the top. When I do it take about a second to show. Unfortunately for you this is the way it works and you need to get use to it. I also came from Windows and I do not have a problem with it. if I want the file menu I go up with my pointer and get it. Also the Dock is still hidden in fullscreen mode, but unlike when not in fullscreen, it takes a double bump to view the Dock. Move the pointer to bottom and an attempt to move it lower will display the Dock.

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20120326061614691

Reveals how you can shorten the delay by which the dock 'pops up' when it is hidden.

Whilst I can understand your frustration, the decision to hide the menu bar and dock in full-screen mode makes some sense. In essence, all you get to see is the content. The menu bar and dock are available if you need them, but hidden to maximise screen real-estate.

With the Dock and Menu bar hidden to maximise content, it also makes sense for a slight delay should you move your mouse to the top or bottom. Say, for example, you have a maximised webpage that just completely fills the screen with a link you want to click at the bottom. If the dock was to appear immediately, every time you moved your mouse pointer to the bottom to click the link, the dock would pop up and hide it.......

e.g http://mac.appstorm.net/roundups/utilities-roundups/40-super-secret-os-x-lion-fe atures-and-shortcuts/

8. Show Dock in Fullscreen Apps

Another great Lion feature is the fullscreen mode that you now see on many apps. The immediate complaint that many people have upon entering a fullscreen app though is that their dock no longer pops up from the bottom when moused over.

The truth is, yes it does. The action necessary to make it happen changes ever so subtly though. Typically, any motion near the bottom of the screen will pop up a hidden dock. However in fullscreen mode, you must bring your mouse all the way down to the bottom, then keep going. That little extra effort will tell OS X that you aren’t messing around with the app but instead want to see your dock. It’s awkward to get used to but eventually it starts to make sense.

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What do you mean by truncated? In FSM, my Safari menu is the same as the windowed one? Can you explain by an image?