New to Apple, frustrated with menu bar

thanks for that- very much appreciated. As a newbie to macs I'm enjoying the experience (having been using windows since the year dot). This is so much better than the windows 8 laptop I had before (or any windows laptop I've had). The hardware is brilliant, and the software feels more inuitive and integrated.

Hi - I am new to Mac's - had it for a week now and I have the same issue as you posted nearly two years ago i.e. I want the menu bar to STAY ON in Safari........

To save me reading all 89 posts - did you ever solve this?

Read my last post. A few replies back.

Bob

With Safari open click on view then click on Hide Toolbar. This will put it in place and take it away. Your were not being rude. They had not answered your question.

With Safari open click on view then click on Hide Toolbar. This will put it in place and take it away. Your were not being rude. They had not answered your question.

OK, thank much for those who really read the initial post question. I have achieved my goal and

milew66's goal.

1. I just recapped what someone that posted here, to maximized the app (Safari, Chrome, ) use the green circle on the top left of the app. to the right of the minimize button. This will keep the menu bar which is the apple icon, active app, File, Edit... bar. while the

* some app, like apple update won't fill up all the space you still have to drag it to fill all. but if you close it on the size you wanted it it will open like it the next time. this function is probably like any other OS, I know Windows does that not a days. This is probably the best we can do for now. I understand in Windows this is a "better" feature because it fills the whole screen and leave the Start menu, open programs, clock, date, notification when you hit the maximize button, but it depends what you want, for the Apple style some people wants full screen as nothing else but the app they want even if the menu bar is not showing.

2. I don't like the way Safari defaulting to hide the address bar (place to type in URL ) unless it's Maximized, and show me my most recent site. As I want the keep the quickest way to type in any site address

For those like me then .sharonandjeffrey's answer was perfect for me.

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Ok, was abit I don't know what last night, this morning. I meant to say thanks to those who really read teh initial post and provided answers and or part of the answer. Thanks to those, I think I have achieved my goal and maybe milew66's. I was a bit careless on what I type and didn't know that you can not edit my own post.

FYI Stil no solution (I say this to help others who skip to this page so they dont have to read through all 7 pages like I did)

Thanks to all the work around guys but I hunt for a better solution is still not there yet as i just spent 2 hours reading every single post in this thread. Still the best idea seems to be the two mouses I think on page 5 or so.

I think the question still lingers and I personally would like to see if an app could be developed or even some code that would solve the following question.

"In full screen mode (specifically full screen..I don't to have to expand each and every single window that I open up) is there a way to maintain the menu bar (the bar that has File, help, edit, the time, your battery ect) always on. ORRR is there a hot key so we can get that to immediately show up (I think I would even be willing to settle for this).

Again to everyone who has posted work arounds I do greatly appreciate it, but this comes from being picky in something that we have to deal with everyday. and my thoughts would be that there should be some way that we should be able to solve this.

Thanks for any responses guys

I'm with you, volunteer or not, these people are not very encouraging to newbies.

I will like my application to use as much space, while keeping the menu bar, which has a lot of important info.... I want to do this, with out having to drag every corner, every time I want to use an application.

Quick question would be, can you fix the menu bar permanently?

I've done another search and unless someone has come up with some utility that I couldn't find, we have to go with techniques/workarounds. I use both words because it depends on your perspective. Regardless, there doesn't seem to be any way to fix the menu bar permanently the way you'd like.

The thing is that the Mac's full screen mode is not the same as MS Windows maximize. And Windows doesn't have an equivalent to fullscreen mode. Just like all those other differences, here OS X and Windows are different.

That said, Apple changed things up somewhat in Yosemite. Now, fullscreen mode is directly accessible from the Close/Minimize/Maximize buttons in the upper left of a window. However, they've changed the Maximize button to be a fullscreen button. Apple would argue that it's now easier to get into and out of fullscreen because the window control buttons are all in the same place. And while they changed that, they did provide for maximizing. If you hold down the Option key while clicking the green maximize/fullscreen button, the screen maximizes. So you get the menu bar and the dock which is the equivalent to Windows maximizing where you get the window menu bar plus the taskbar. You can also maximize by double clicking on the window title bar.

Besides the various techniques mentioned in this thread, there are a couple of other things worth mentioning.

A thread titled "Can I restore previous functionality of the Maximize button in Yosemite" mentions Better Touch Tool. Better Touch Tool allows you to create keyboard macros among lots of other things. One thing you can do is to make a right mouse button click on the green maximize button into a maximize command. I believe that you could also switch what the left click does.

Another option is a window manipulation utility like Moom. With Moom installed, hovering over the green button pops up a little window of options, one of which is maximize.

Before anything else, try the Option-click on the green button and see if that's what you want. You can always hide or auto hide the dock, or even move it to the side if it's in the way.

So I noticed the question wasn't fully answered for most. It is true that in Fullscreen mode there is no way that I am aware of that the menu bar can be fully displayed. However...

You can work around this by going to system preferences>Click on "dock" > check "automatically hide and show the dock"

This will allow you to use the entire screen for each windowed application. Just be sure to manually resize the window with your cursor.

-Alternatively you can also adjust the dock size and such so it takes up as much as a normal windows start bar would. Hope this helps/answers. I'm using Yosemite 10.10.2 BTW.

Milew,

If you grab the corner of your app (Safari) and drag it until it's maximum size. Then you click on the app that's the size it will be the next time you use it. I hope that helps, probably a few years late. But, I was just searching on the same issue today. I also am a bit frustrated with Mac's full screen approach.Kind Regards,

IAK7

This is exactly what I just found when I googled it. It seems like MacWorld is a wealth of information. It's just easiest to hide the dock rather than play with the menu bar. 100 Posts later someone decided to focus on another aspect of the screen... Another option to hide the dock is:

Command + Option + D

More info on the menu bar too: http://www.macworld.com/article/2027867/why-some-apps-belong-in-the-menu-bar-not -the-dock.html

Here is the solution that achieved what I think it is the poster is looking for (although I think there are some semantics that have confused the issue over the long thread).

The poster wants to see the Dock (typically the very bottom bar, with access to all the applications), the Menu bar (typically the very top, with access to items like "File", "Edit", "View", etc.), and the document itself that is of interest within the application, taking up all available space in the middle - like is commonly true in Windows. All three of these items should be present at all times, and should take up the entire viewable screen. He/she also doesn't want to muck around with clicking and dragging things all the time to get access to the screen "real estate".

"Full-screen" isn't the right mode for this, since the intention of full-screen is to hide everything but the most essential items for the immediate task at hand. Stuff like access to other files or applications isn't usually considered germane to the task at hand, so it's hidden, but accessible if you hover in the right places.

Since the poster wants all these things in view at the same time, and doesn't want any "unused" screen space, here is what worked for me to accomplish this:

- Exit full-screen mode if you are in in it (hit cmd-cntrl-F, or click on the doodad in the upper right of the menu bar that appears when you hover up near the top edge of the screen (if it's otherwise hidden), that shows two arrows pointing inward to each other).

- Go to Settings, Dock, and uncheck the following if they are checked: "Automatically hide and show the Dock" (uncheck the box) and "Double-click a window's title bar to minimize" (uncheck the box). (For more about what the latter means, click on the ? on the lower right. It explains that "Deselect to expand an app window to fill the space between the Dock and the menu bar by double-clicking its title bar."

- Double click on the title bar of the particular document within the application that you want to "maximize" (to use a WIndows term). You should see this window expand take up all the rest of the available space. Also, when you close the document and reopen it, it should open back to the same view state, so should take up the whole screen.

3 years, 7 pages, and a bunch of frustrated Mac users (including me)... This is what you do:

When you are in full screen mode and not seeing the menu bar, move your cursor to the left corner and click the green button

(or shift+command+F) The window will become smaller (resized) and in the center of your screen (image 3 below). The menu bar will now show up at the top as well

Simply stretch the window from right, left, top and bottom.

Problem solved. Can be done in email or internet. I hope this helps

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Image 1-full screen no bar

Image 2- full screen with bar using the cursor to appear

Image 3- after you click the green button the window in minimized

Image 4- stretched to the right ( repeat top, bottom and left)

Image 5- problem solved. Menu bar in place