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iDVD output quality

I'm trying to create a slide show with music using iDVD ver 7.1.2 running on Mac OS X ver 10.6.8 and the output quality is very poor. I'm using high quality jpg files some from Lightroom and others from Photoshop CS5. Both are highest quality when saving or exporting. I've tried all thee encoding settings in iDVD with no noticable difference. I've tried to drop the photos directly into iDVD and also tried to put them in iPhoto and export them to iDVD...nothing works for me. What am I doing wrong?

iDVD '08, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on May 27, 2012 5:33 AM

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Posted on May 27, 2012 5:45 AM

Hi


There are several layers to this


• DVD - is as Standard (whatever program used) - interlaced SD-Video - and can not be anything better than this.


• How material was created to iDVD matters


iMovie'08 to 11 - is not the tool of choise if quality is of importance - as they can not export interlaced video any way known to me - but does this by discarding every second line resulting in a sever quality loss


iMovie HD6 and FinalCut are so much better - as they can deliver 100% interlaced video over to iDVD


• How material is sent to iDVD matters


Share to iDVD - I NEVER USE as this makes iMovie any version to render (badly)


iMovie'08 to 11 - Share to Media Browser and as Large (NOT HD or other resoultion as this too degrades final quality) - forces iMovie to NOT RENDER and iDVD to do this (and so much better)


iMovie HD6 - just close it and import the movie icon into iDVD and iDVD renders.


Else my notes on DVD Quality


DVD quality


1. iDVD 08, 09 & 11 has three levels of qualities. (version 7.0.1, 7,0.4 & 7.1.1) and iDVD 6 has the two last ones


• Professional Quality

(movies + menus up to 120 min.) - BEST (but not always for short movies e.g. up to 45 minutes in total)


• Best Performances

(movies + menus less than 60 min.) - High quality on final DVD (Can be best for short movies)


• High Quality (in iDVD08 or 09) / Best Quality (in iDVD6)

(movies + menus up to 120 min.) - slightly lower quality than above


Menu can take 15 minutes or even more - I use a very simple one with no audio or animation like ”Brushed Metal” in old Themes.


About double on DL DVDs.


2. Video from


• FCE/P - Export out as full quality QuickTime.mov (not self-containing, no conversion)


• iMovie x-6 - Don't use ”Share/Export to iDVD” = destructive even to movie project and especially so

when the movie includes photos and the Ken Burns effect NOT is used. Instead just drop or import the iMovie movie project icon (with a Star on it) into iDVD theme window.


• iMovie’08 or 09 or 11 are not meant to go to iDVD. Go via Media Browser or rather use iMovie HD 6 from start.


3. I use Roxio Toast™ to make an as slow burn speed as possibly e.g. x4 or x1 (in iDVD’08 or 09 this can also be set)

This can also be done with Apple’s Disk Utilities application when burning from a DiskImage.


4. There has to be about or more than 25Gb free space on internal (start-up) hard disk. iDVD can't

use an external one as scratch disk (if it is not start-up disc). For SD-Video - if HD-material is used I guess that 4 to 5 times more would do.


5. I use Verbatim ( also recommended by many - Taiyo Yuden DVDs - I can’t get hold of it to test )


6. I use DVD-R (no +R or +/-RW) - DVD-R play’s on more and older DVD-Players


7. Keep NTSC to NTSC - or - PAL to PAL when going from iMovie to iDVD

(I use JES_Deinterlacer to keep frame per sec. same from editing to the Video-DVD result.)


8. Don’t burn more than three DVDs at a time - but let the laser cool off for a while before next batch.


iDVD quality also depends on.


• DVD is a standard in it self. It is Standard Definition Quality = Same as on old CRT-TV sets and can not

deliver anything better that this.


HD-DVD was a short-lived standard and it was only a few Toshiba DVD-players that could playback.

These DVDs could be made in DVD-Studio Pro. But they don’t playback on any other standard DVD-Player.


Blu-Ray / BD can be coded onto DVDs but limited in time to - about 20-30 minutes and then need

_ Roxio Toast™ 10 Pro incl. BD-component

_ BD disks and burner if full length movies are to be stored

_ BD-Player or PlayStation3 - to be able to playback

The BD-encoded DVDs can be play-backed IF Mac also have Roxio DVD-player tool. Not on any standard Mac or DVD-player

Full BD-disks needs a BD-player (in Mac) as they need blue-laser to be read. No red-laser can do this.


• HOW much free space is there on Your internal (start-up) hard disk. Go for approx. 25Gb.

less than 5Gb and Your result will most probably not play.


• How it was recorded - Tripod vs Handheld Camera. A stable picture will give a much higher quality


• Audio is most often more critical than picture. Bad audio and with dropouts usually results in a non-viewed movie.


• Use of Video-editor. iMovie’08 or 09 or 11 are not the tools for DVD-production. They discard every second line resulting in a close to VHS-tape quality.

iMovie 1 to HD6 and FinalCut any version delivers same quality as Camera record in = 100% to iDVD


• What kind of movie project You drop into it. MPEG4 seems to be a bad choice.

other strange formats are .avi, .wmv, .flash etc. Convert to streamingDV first

Also audio formats matters. I use only .aiff or from miniDV tape Camera 16-bit

strange formats often problematic are .avi, .wmv, audio from iTunes, .mp3 etc

Convert to .aiff first and use this in movie project


• What kind of standard - NTSC movie and NTSC DVD or PAL to PAL - no mix.

(If You need to change to do a NTSC DVD from PAL material let JES_Deinterlacer_3.2.2 do the conversion)

(Dropping a PAL movie into a NTSC iDVD project

(US) NTSC DVDs most often are playable in EU

(EU) PAL DVDs most often needs to be converted to play in US

UNLESS. They are play-backed by a Mac - then You need not to care


• What kind of DVDs You are using. I use Verbatim DVD-R (this brand AND no +R or +/-RW)


• How You encode and burn it. Two settings prior iDVD’08 or 09

Pro Quality (only in iDVD 08 & 09)

Best / High Quality (not always - most often not)

Best / High Performances (most often my choice before Pro Quality)


1. go to iDVD pref. menu and select tab far right and set burn speed to x1 (less errors = plays better) - only in iDVD 08 & 09

(x4 by some and may be even better)

2. Project info. Select Professional Encoding - only in iDVD 08 & 09.


Region codes.

iDVD - only burn Region = 0 - meaning - DVDs are playable everywhere


DVD Studio pro can set Region codes.

1 = US

2 = EU


unclemano wrote


What it turned out to be was the "quality" settings in iDVD. The total clip time was NOT over 2 hours or 4.7GB, yet iDVD created massive visual artifacts on the "professional quality" setting.


I switched the settings to "high quality" which solved the problem. According iDVD help, "high quality" determines the best bit rate for the clips you have.


I have NEVER seen iDVD do this before, especially when I was under the 2 hour and 4.7GB limits.


For anyone else, there seem to be 2 places in iDVD to set quality settings, the first is under "preferences" and the second under "project info." They do NOT seem to be linked (i.e. if you change one, the other is NOT changed). take care, Mario


TO GET IT TO WORK SLIGHTLY FASTER

• Minimum of 25Gb free space on Start-Up hard disk

• No other programs running in BackGround e.g. Energy-Saver

• Don’t let HD spin down or be turned off (in Energy-Save)

• Move hard disks that are not to be used to Trash - To be disconnected/turned off

• Goto Spotlight and set the rest of them under Integrity (not to be scanned)

• Set screen-saver to a folder without any photo - then make an active corner (up right for me) and set

pointer to this - turns on screen saver - to show that it has nothing to show


Yours Bengt W

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Jan 8, 2013 4:54 PM in response to Old Toad

OT,

If I understand correctly, I can take the files from IM8 export to IM6 (or import to IM6) & then create a DVD. Will the quality be the same as if I imported directly from a camcorder? Will that eliminate the effect that Bengt Warely described as IM6 being 100% interlaced video while IM8 discards every second line? Thanks.

Jan 8, 2013 5:00 PM in response to Bengt Wärleby

Bengt Warleby,

-IM6 does not let me import a HDSC card so is there a way to do so?

-Will importing video from IM8 to IM6 avoid the interlace problem & improve the quality of the DVD or is it still going to drop every second line?

-I normally create a disk image & then burn the DVD. Does that avoid having every 2nd line dropped?

-I guess a summary of what I'm trying to understand is how to I get the best video quality from IM on a DVD?

Jan 8, 2013 11:14 PM in response to lubrom

-IM6 does not let me import a HDSC card so is there a way to do so?


Have non to test - I only use

• miniDV tape material = interlaced SD-Video

• photos from .jpg or via iPhoto

• movies stored in iPhoto (resulting quality not impressive at all - never figured out a way to keep quality from this)


-Will importing video from IM8 to IM6 avoid the interlace problem & improve the quality of the DVD or is it still going to drop every second line?


When You move a clip from Event's to Project's - it drops every second line

If You go to


Your Home folder / Movies / iMovie Event's


and find Your Imported clip - it is still in full quality - I'm TOLD ! Never tried this


-I normally create a disk image & then burn the DVD. Does that avoid having every 2nd line dropped?


As far as I know it will do no difference at all - If iDVD get's 100% interlaced SD-Video - it will use this when burning or Saving as a DiskImage.


The line dropping is done in iMovie'08 or 09 or 11 - Not in iMovie HD6 or iDVD.


-I guess a summary of what I'm trying to understand is how to I get the best video quality from IM on a DVD?


Doesn't we all 😉


Yours Bengt W

May 12, 2014 1:29 PM in response to Bengt Wärleby

Bengt .. thanx for all the info ! My situation is I am finishing a project , 26 Songs / Videos at 720 widescreen.

Audio was recorded in Pro Tools 11 , imported .mov files , then bounced to quicktime movie .. I did use cistom settings .. BUT , unsure which settings would be best quality ?


The video is good quality .. not great ..

I want to use iDVD to burn the projects .. probably a 2 disc set.

I would be happy if the quality was anywhere close to what I see on my iMovie Macbook Pro Screen.

However .. like so many others .. all projects are always glitchy .. usually yerrible during transitions , cross fades , ect.


I will most likely buy FCPX in the near future.

I have used iDVD to import or iMovie to share to iDVD in the past .. always looks terrible

considering Toast 11 .. but then lose some of the features from iDVD.

My projects are pretty basic .. just want to at least have menus so others can browse or choose chapters.


Any help would be very appreciated !!!


Mac Mini 2.6 quad core i7 - 1TB 7200 RPM hard drive

OSX 10.9.2

8 GB Ram

iMovie 10.0.3 (current) *** I do also own 8.0.6 & 6.0.3 / iDVD 7.12

iDVD - Have not installed a version yet .. into Mac Mini


I have no problem buying Quicktime Pro 7 off the Apple Store or any other products that will help prepare the final project codecs or DVD burn .. or for future projects. .. . I am on a budget so do need to watch costs .. hence not buying FCPX yet.


Also looking into a new external USB3 Blueray / DVD /CD burner .. in case you recommend one in particular ?


Again .. thanx for all the info you posted regarding iMove and iDVD

oh ... and also looking at iMovie 9 (or whatever version it actually is) as I see so many posts regarding better quality since Apple has forced us into a lesser quality or less teakable quicktime with the new iMovie versions ... guess by time I spend $$ on several products .. could have bought FCPX 🙂

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