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MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.


After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).


Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:26 PM

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Aug 29, 2012 4:56 AM in response to DJ Coffee

First Update - rMBP 1 (LG)


A couple of pages back, I reported that my LG screen was fine, but it has now shown to be faulty with flickering and a very minor case of retention. Very dissapointed but went ahead to call 1800MYAPPLE. The rep tried to help me fix my problem with various methods such as resetting the PRAM and such. In any case, none worked, and the rep suggested for me to make an appointment with my nearest Apple Store, which I did. Unortunately, the Apple Store didn't provide an option to send me a replacement while I held on to the defective one. They gave me a choice of 2 options.

  1. Hand over the rMBP and have them purchase me a new one to have it shipped to my door.
  2. Spend another ~3k and wait to receive the new one before returning my defective one.

Neither of which I wanted to do. I cannot hand over the laptop and wait another week or two as a new one is built and shipped to me; I have work to do. I also don't have the kind of money to just purchase another expensive rMBP like that. So I called 1800MYAPPLE again, and after 2 transfers and being put on hold for a while (totaled up to be 41 mins) the Senior Advisor set up a replacement for me that will be built in priority, and shipped expidited once I ship my defective unit back. They said that once they confirm that it's on its way back to Apple, they will go ahead and send me a new replacement. I was told that this was as close as I can get to limiting the number of days I am without a machine. What other choice was there than to accept?


This morning, I checked my email, but was not able to find the label they were supposed to send me in order to ship my rMBP back to Apple, so I gave them another call, except this time, I called 1800APLCARE. During my call, I immediately provided the case # from my previous call and was immediately transfered to another Senior Advisor once the rep saw that a previous Senior helped me the day before. I told the Advisor what the problem was, and also requested for an "advanced replacement" (where I get to keep the defective unit until the replacement arrives). He put me on hold for a few minutes before transfering me to the online sales department, where someone was finally able to get an "advanced replacement" set up for me. He told me that the conditions of my rMBP were considered as "dead on arrival" and a replacement will be shipped out as soon as possible. He also mentioned that I wouldn't need to send my defective unit back until I received the new one and gave me his personal phone number in case I had any more concerns regarding my case. So now I play the waiting game, and hope my new model has no issues or defects.


If Apple refuses to do such a replacement for you, AND you are still under the 14-day return policy, then call 1800APLCARE and NOT 1800MYAPPLE. Apple Care will most likely get you a replacement in a manner that is most convenient for you or as close as possible. If you are past the 14-days, I suggest you request for one anyway, but you will most likely have to send your unit back before they send you a new one. I will update further once I receive my replacement.


Second Update - rMBP 2 (Samsung)


Alright, earlier this morning/afternoon I posted that my Samsung has no IR problems, and I want to tell you guys it is still doing well with no IR/ghosting whatsoever. I did however notice a "mura" or a small cluster of defective pixels. They were hard to see but once I restarted the computer it became visible almost immediately. There's nothing really wrong about them, it is just brighter on that single spot (about 2 millimeters in thickness).


I went ahead and called the sales rep who was able to get me a replacement the first time, but he didn't answer the phone. I left a detailed voicemail about my problem and about ~30 minutes later he called back sincerely apologizing for yet another defect on the rMBP. He then kindly set up another case for me and transfered my to a customer service rep and told me to give him a call back with my new case number if anything goes wrong.


I had to deal with the service rep's nonsense for a good 20 minutes before she transfered me to her Senior Advisor since she had no clue how to deal with a replacement for my replacement. The SA talked to me about my problem for a few minutes and was really understanding about the issue. I was given 2 options:

  1. I could either set up another replacement (~1-2 weeks to receive)
  2. Get the screen replaced overnight

Obviously I went to the replacement since I'm not comfortable with repairs on a brand new rMBP.


I also asked him about the screens being manufactured for the rMBPs and told him all about what's been going on in this thread, and how Samsung screens were performing much better than the LG ones. He was a little surprised that Apple used LG screens for the new models and he always thought that they were Samsung. He then assured me that Apple WILL get me a perfect rMBP with no defects no matter how many tries it takes them and also put in notes in my case to ensure that the new replacement will undergo stricter quality checks by people who run the diagnostics etc. The SA was also able to tell me that all the newly manufactured MBPs from this point on should all have Samsung displays (but don't hold that against me if it's untrue!).


Very impressed with the quality of service provided to me this time as I almost had to do nothing on my part and it was obvious the SA knew exactly what he was doing and how to handle the problem (unlike MANY others). I'm pretty bummed still, that my Samsung-display rMBP needs to be replaced and that school is starting soon. 😟


*edit*

There's also a much smaller thread going on about the "mura" bright spots too! Here's the link in case you have any and were wondering about them.https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4042189?tstart=0



Third Update - rMBP 3 (Samsung)

Okay guys it's been a week or so since I received my 2nd replacement (my 3rd unit) from Apple. All the replacements arrived in a brand new sealed box with everything inside, just as if I purchased it again. I am very happy to tell you guys that after a week of testing this unit, I can confirm for a fact that IR does not occur, nor are there any other screen-related issues. Apple did promise me a perfect rMBP and they finally delivered it. I'm not exactly happy that it took this much effort, but I am happy I got a non-defective laptop. Passing a little hope to you guys who are still awaiting for your replacements! But before I go, I would like to tell you guys that both times I asked for a replacement, they said that they needed me to send my defective rMBP back first. Both times I held onto the laptop until the new one came. Seems they ship the replacements out regardless if they get the original back first or not. Just make sure to actually send it back to them soon or else you'll be charged twice!

Aug 29, 2012 5:13 AM in response to DJ Coffee

Lucky you got one on the third try! I set up my fourth replacement last Tuesday, and was expecting to hear from the ER with my shipping number today. Except she rang me only to say it wont even ship from China till the 8th of September!! (dragging this whole thing on since the beginning of July. Why is it so difficult to get what you paid for from Apple? This **** is ridiculous!) Anyway so its looking like it's going to end up being a month from ordering the fourth replacement to receiving it. It had better be a flawless Samsung this time!

Aug 29, 2012 8:08 AM in response to evilZardoz

Hi EvilZardoz,


I'm no visual designer or artist, but we're talking closer to the D50 on my Cinema Display than to the 9,300K...


It's not exactly pure whites that annoy me, it's everything else, skewed towards yellow, such as the greys. Everything tends towards sepia. Of course it could be because of room lights and office lights, but I much prefer my Cinema Display's native calibration to my rMBP's !

Aug 29, 2012 9:54 AM in response to nicolade

I just received my second replacement (third computer) yesterday, and died a little inside when I saw it was another LG. At this point, I'm at a total loss. At max brightness and on one of the picture backgrounds, it will display the checkerboard image retention after about 20 minutes--but it quickly dissipates. I called AppleCare to exchange it, but they're making it really difficult to do it again. I'm considering just giving up and taking it in later if it gets worse. I just hate the idea of having the screen ripped off the body. My previous MBP had a creaky hinge, and I'd be enraged if this one developed a similar issue. Are people still getting Samsung replacements? Maybe I should just return it altogether.

Aug 29, 2012 9:54 AM in response to mittense

Well, I thought I was lucky to have an LG screen that does not have "image retention", but it does. First time I ran Retinauser's rentention test there was no noticable image retention. Til today, when I noticed after working with rMBP that when switching to a grey screen I could see the outline of the icons on the dock, quite clearly as an ghostly image. SO i ran the image retention i could clearly see the checkerboard image after 15 or 20 minutes. It already shows after 4-5 minutes, but is still really light. Weird thing is, this didn't occur three days back. I have built to order base Macbook retina with upgraded ram.


Color LCD
LP154WT1-SJA1
DCN22630L8MDMJ0AX
Persistent image time: 19:59
Ghost persistence time: 03:18
Used gray tone: 90
Display brightness: 56.25
Used pattern: Chessboard
Result code: T11959T2318P1G5aB90I0


Its nowhere near as bad as some users are reporting, but its there. And mostly likely gonna get worse. My machine is from week 27, and I bought in Switzerland.


I called with applecare, and they were really helpfull... They offered to replace my screen, which I'll never accept specially since the machine is only 1.5 months old. Apparently aftersales was already closed, so the guy said they may replace the machine but this isn't usually what they do since its already outside of 14 days no question asked return policy..


anyway.. It really does seem as if alot people with LG panels do have IR... bet most of them don't notice it..

Aug 29, 2012 10:18 AM in response to Sebdude

Have you installed 10.8.1? Because the symptoms are the same as by mine. Used for about a month without any IR with 10.8, then 10.8.1 came, and the screen got screwed up.


What makes me rage is that Apple is not telling anything officially, like they're investigating the problem, how's the progress going or whatsoever. We paid a lot for a premium category notebook, now we would like to be handled appropriately.


Reading the suffering of other users with the replacement/repair, i'm thinking on choosing the refund, and buying it later when all this storm is over.

Aug 29, 2012 10:19 AM in response to seank92

seank92 wrote:


wondering if the issue isnt as big as thi forum makes it seem

You can only hope that's the case, but there are plenty of people that thought their LG screen was fine when they first got it only to see IR increase over the next few days/weeks. Best of luck, but after two returns due to heavy IR LG screens, I'm waiting until Apple officialy responds before trying again.

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