MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

BRanger wrote:

You can see a relative difference when comparing side by side but you can't tell which one is correct. You don't have a known valid reference point for eyeball purposes unless one of them has been calibrated. A display that's too warm can make a calibrated display appear too blue. The reverse is also true, if one of your displays is excessively cool then it will make the calibrated device seem yellow.

Unfortunately our eyes can easily play tricks on us in these matters.

Exactly, just the relative difference, which is why I'm not overly concerned about that. I'm much more concerned with knowing that a particular pixel that I'm seeing on my screen is actually supposed to be there. Can you imagine a doctor trying to read an X-ray image emailed to him? What about a cartographer? Totally ridiculous.

lel62 wrote:

I would think that Samsung is going to utilize their factories to serve their own products as opposed to Apple's product line. This is just a opinion but maybe?

Hmm, I don't know about that. I would think Samsung is under contract to deliver x amount of displays at a rate that has been previously agreed to by both parties.

zolobot wrote:

"I hope everyone considering buying these machines and reading this thread understands by now that the IR on these LG displays (LP154WT1-SJA1) gets worse over time."

That is so true. My IR is way worse now than it was at the beginning. That's why I think that anybody who has received a "good" LG should keep testing it, every day if necessary, to see if IR appears and/or get's worse.

REMINDER...

If you haven't done so already, please go to the Facebook page...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Apple-Please-Recall-Retina-Macbook-Pros-with-LG-Di splays/515441551804955

..."Like" it, and post a description and any good photos you have of your IR issue. If we get enough "Likes" it should really start to take off in terms of general web-visibility.

Hello Mark,

Please keep us updated on your LG screen.

Regards,

Mike

Wow that is quite a difference! But this begs the question, how are the two calibrated? Were the two calibrated or is this out of the box? Or, are the calibrations the same?

Kudos to Apple in one respect - my first LG was returned on the 28th August, the return was already processed on the 29th and the money was back in my account this morning! I was worried the refund would take ages to process. Good job as my second order was dispatched today, so the money for that will be out of my account in a day or so. Arriving 10th September so will report back with screen manufacturer etc

Interesting that I saw someone post earlier that only LG screens were coming from the online Education store (which I am ordering from, in the UK), while Samsungs are being sent to the physical Apple shops. Not sure we have any proof of this though do we? It seems as if there are just a much higher number of LG screens out there, so the odds of getting one are unfortunately higher. But like someone else said, the fact that so many people are getting one faulty LG after another suggests that *many* (can't really say all, but I still think the problem is bigger than most people realise) LGs are indeed affected by IR. I agree, that a lot of the "good" LG screens are also likely to have IR, just that the owners haven't noticed it yet, and for some people they just won't bother to try and do anything about it. My LG screen was fine on day 1, but I was using it for 12 hours a day, and the IR was pretty bad by day 11 when I returned it. Hate to think what it could have been like after a month!

Your or anyone else's mileage may vary, however, I am seeing a tiny, tiny bit of what I would call IR in both displays side by side. The bottom image has quite a bit of IR.

I have to ask, out of curiosity. Has Apple admitted, then, that the LG displays do not work properly on the Retina MBP? I mean, have they done a recall, or are they planning to do one?

The first image I posted only for the warm/cool color comparison. They are both using the default setting "Color LCD", and full brightness. No IR on the new Samsung atleast. Both may show some backlight bleeding.

Apples_8212 wrote:

Interesting that I saw someone post earlier that only LG screens were coming from the online Education store (which I am ordering from, in the UK), while Samsungs are being sent to the physical Apple shops. Not sure we have any proof of this though do we?

I got my first LG display from the Apple Store Business, then my second and third one from display exchanges at the Apple Store in Italy.

alwaysforever wrote:

I have to ask, out of curiosity. Has Apple admitted, then, that the LG displays do not work properly on the Retina MBP? I mean, have they done a recall, or are they planning to do one?

No, that would give them bad press, and that would hurt their sales and be bad for their stocks, which are high as ever, and which are their main concern...

But I do hope this issue will get so big that they have to react.

DrAndyWright wrote:

9 days heavy use, I used the 15 min checkerboard test program, no sign of any image persistence on the grey background. So Samsung doing well so far.

Honestly there is absolutely no need for you to test Samsung for IR. They just don't have it, nobody with Samsung ever complained for IR. With Samsung you can get all sort of dead pixels, yellow tint, lightbleeding etc. etc., but not Image Retention 😉

In regards to the student store only shipping LG displays I can say that is incorrect. I ordered a 2.7GHZ/512GB/16GB from the student store and got a Samsung Display from the get go. I was grinning from ear to ear when i got it and saw that i had the Samsung.

That's good to hear! And congrats on the Samsung. I'm going to keep trying...!