MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

Still nothing and I have installed Xcode as well. This makes no sense! Thanks for your help though. If anyone else has any suggestions it would really be appreciated.

For those of you who are only seeing "Color LCD" when running the command:

The 15" models that contain discrete graphics will allow you to check the display manufacturer. The 13" ones will NOT. You will only ever get back "Color LCD" on a 13". (I haven't had a chance to use one to check it yet, but I also bet this will prove to be the case with the new 15" Haswells that only contain Iris Pro graphics, and leave out the nVidia chip.)

This appears to be because either the Intel integrated graphics subsystem or the driver itself does not return the entire EDID that the display reports to it; it only returns a truncated one. The "IODisplayEDID" property is returned from the integrated graphics, while the "EDID" property is returned from the nVidia graphics (you can see this if you examine the complete results of the 'ioreg -lw0' command without trying to filter anything out). Only the "EDID" property contains the complete EDID, including the panel model and serial number. Since the 13" models only contain integrated graphics, the "EDID" property generated by the nVidia driver is absent from the ioreg output.

-- Nathan

lel62,

See my latest response to trgn.

-- Nathan

In addition to what I just posted, it should also be pointed out that it appears that *some* kind of LCD panel model distinction is able to be seen if you go to System Preferences -> Displays -> Color -> Open Profile (opens ColorSync Utility) -> scroll down to -- and click on -- 'mmod' / "Apple display make and model information".

On the Ivy Bridge 15" Retina models, the manufacturer would always be 610 (Apple?), and the model would either say A00E or A00F. On every 15" Ivy Bridge rMBP I have managed to test, A00E correlated to Samsung, and A00F correlated to LG, every time. I can only guess that these are "internal use" model numbers that Apple themselves assigned to the various displays that they use in the manufacture of their computers, and have no bearing on the manufacturer of the display itself: A00E and A00F just happened to be the numbers that Apple assigned to these two displays for their own use.

On models without discrete graphics where the command-line EDID check does not work, you may at least be able to see *some* difference in the model via the ColorSync Utility. Unfortunately, although different model numbers may be observed here which people might be able to use to correllate different displays to different common problems (e.g., "I've noticed that all of my 13" rMBPs with image retention all show a model of '0BAD' in the ColorSync Utility, while the ones without image retention are largely model '0BAC'"), there is no way that I know of to be able to know for sure who makes a particular display using this method, given that these are just arbitrary Apple model #s.

-- Nathan

Are you saying that all 13" are not suffering from IR ? I really want one but as far as I know they all have the problem ...

So, any IR?

First I apologize for mentioning this irrelevant information but it is to help each other as this was the goal of this very forum, the 13" MacBook pro haswells to be exact are suffering from some sort of dysfunctional keyboard and trackpad so patience is advised.

Also I wlould like to apologize for an earlier statement I posted that was false, it seems like broadwell is comeng to notebooks Not desktops

Best of luck

I am based in the UK and have a first gen with lg screen, posted on here before and followed since owning my MBPR 15".

I've had issues from day one with IR, made 3 trips to genius bar, only for them to run the test and tell me it's within spec, although it has got worse over time (since jan 2013) they still keep telling me this. Calls to the support team have been very frustrating, 7 or 8 calls and not once have I managed to get this resolved, the one time I got to speak with higher management about 2 months back I was told that I had more chance of getting compensation from the store I bought it from or the credit card it was purchased on than getting a replacement screen (even under the manufaturers 12 month warranty), then I had an email linking me to the IR Solution page on the apple site..... from that very same manager.

The last call made this week proved more fruitful but will beleive it when I see it, the lady on the phone saw that I had spoken with management staff and could not beleive the response I was given, she has set me up yet another genius bar appointment for this week and passed all notes on the store. Let's see how this one goes, any tips appreciated!

To be honest I am not holding out much hope, IR shows after 1 or 2 minutes and takes longer to dissapear, the dock also had IR ghosting now which never happened before, the test is not really in favour of normal everyday use for me as I used to use my mac for designing and photography. I say 'used to use' as I've actually resorted to not using the machine and use my pc for all work, the most the mac gets used for is the odd movie.... getting my monies worth from a £2,000 machine!

Oh and also out of warranty the end of November but am completely against paying for apple care at £270 over another 2 years if they can't/won't support my problems since purchasing the machine, what trust have they filled me with!!!

Hey twosix79, sorry to hear about your issues they sound very similar to mine when I was trying to get my mid 2012 rMBP sorted. You are better off going to the store itself, this is what I eventually did and they ended up giving me 2 replacement screens.

My advice is to be patient and don't get angry from the start, explain your situation calmly and how you are unhappy about the IR on a machine that cost £2000. I explained that Apple's very marketing on this machine relates to the display and that's the reason I bought one.

The first machine I had was an LG with IR, the first replacement was a samsung with yellow gradient and the third was also a Samsung with yellow gradient. Eventually I went back and asked to speak with a manager, the member of staff I spoke said is it someone I can help with? I politely said no as I have a case open and apparently they have told me I need to speak with the store manager to get the problem resolved.

I explained my issues to the manager and he said I presume you have been asked if you want another screen replacement. I said yes but it was pointless as I know there are issues with these screens, you only have to look on the internet forums to see all the probelms people are having. I eventually said (not thinking in a million years he would agree) that I would like a refund or at least a credit for the machine. Incredibly he agreed to the credit and gave me an Apple gift card with over £2,200 on it.

You have to bear in mind I already had 2 replacement screens at this time so it's highly unlikely you'll be offered credit until you have had at least 2 screens replaced. In my experience they tend to do it very quickly, in fact on both days I took my machine in, the following day it was ready. To clarify, my warranty was due to expire on 22nd November 2013 and I managed to get the credit last Monday.

To be honest I have had to contact Apple on a few occasions with regards to hardware and they have always been incredibly helpful. In my experience I cannot fault them.

Amazing how lazy some people are. Read a few pages and your answers are there.

People. NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH REGARDS TO IMAGE RETENTION FROM THIS PAST YEAR. Other than Apple has turned off your ability to see if you have an lg or samsung (hmm, now why would they do that?). So stop spinning your wheels here like you're now going to discover something. The screens are still defective. Both 13" and 15". I want one that isn't defective also but to me, it's confirmed, they changed nothing screen wise.

So move on.

Ran some IR tests a few times on my new LG SJE1 and haven't had any IR that I could detect.

Screen looks great, no light leakage. I think I'm just going to take my chances with this screen, rather than try to get a Samsung

If anyone else gets a 15" with the new LG, please post whether you get IR or not.

Just received my first ever macbook (15" Retina) late last evening, confirmed that its an LG screen (LP154WT1-SJE1). In the process of running some tests to see if there is any IR issue.

I received the same model screen. Ran some tests as well and cannot see any IR. Just as you said, I think I will keep this one instead of playing the screen lottery. I don't have any dead pixels, light leakage etc. Plus the screen is not yellow in any sense.

You cannot make that assumption that all LG screens have an issue with IR. As stated here or somewhere else, if that was the case thousands upon thousands of individuals would be posting about the issue. Since this a different version of the screen, it may be that the issue is now non-existant.

Just picked up my rMBP 15" 2.3Ghz/16GB/512GB from store at Palo Alto.

$ ioreg -lw0 | grep \"EDID\" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Color LCD

LSN154YL01-A01

No Image retention after 10 minutes of checkboards.

Two slight yellow radial tints at bottom of the screen near buttons F3 and F9.

I can only seem them when I make entire screen white.

I checked 4 other 15" rMBPs at that store and I haven't seen a flawless screen.

All of them have this yellow tint / 2 spots at bottom with minor changes.