MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.


After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).


Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:26 PM

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Oct 26, 2013 8:08 AM in response to JPizzzle

It's really hard to tell from that image. To me it looks warm on both left and right, more likely the photo though rather than anything else.


The Samsung I have is a lot less warm that the previous generation rMBPs...much much better colour wise, similar to the colours of the LG displays in the previous rMBPs which I preferred. Interesting to note that you are saying the LG looks slightly warm on the left as essentially if I look close enough I have the warmer look on my Samsung on the left handside. I mentioned it previously as yellow but warmer is probably a better term with these newer displays. The old displays were definitely yellow without a shadow of a doubt.

Oct 26, 2013 9:27 AM in response to JPizzzle

JPizzzle wrote:


Here's a pic of my maxxed out 15" retina haswell in a dark room. I have the

LP154WT1-SJE1 screen.


No Image retention, but it seems warm overall and more so on the left side. What do you guys think? People with samsung screens are yours less "warm"?




Many reported yellowly Samsung displays, including me. I assume LP154WT1-SJE1 is LG. A better comparison photograph would be two displays side-by-side.

Oct 26, 2013 9:50 AM in response to DomdiDom

I think I can absolutely make that assumption. You even have people posting they have IR and don't care. You have people posting they didn't realize they had it until they found this thread or other or other posting's in other places. Actually, you're making the assumption that people would post here. You're making the assumption that the problem is gone based on what? Haswell? What different screen? sja2? That's not new and people posted long ago that they had sja2 and IR.

I've been following this thread since last summer, Nothing has changed from then until now as far as IR goes that I can see from the this thread.


Of course apple could put this all to rest by posting and coming clean on the issue.

Oct 26, 2013 10:18 AM in response to Chris Yates1

LOL are you kidding?


Lets flip that around, There's NOTHING to say that apple HAVE spoken with samsung and LG.........


.....and based on some of the responses here, that would be the case.


What we KNOW is there's an IR problems YOU don't know that ANYTHING has been fixed. All you're doing is misleading people new to this thread by suggesting there's any evidence that's contrary to what we KNOW. Nothing has changed since October 22/13.

Oct 26, 2013 10:19 AM in response to mittense

It seems like there ARE new panels for the Haswell machines.


LSN154YL01-A01 is different from the earlier LSN154YL01001

LP154WT1-SJE1 has changed from LP154WT1-SJA1 (or SJA2)


So I'm wondering if the revised Samsungs have less uniformity issues and more accurate color, and if the LGs have even less instances of IR compared to the SJA2 and SJA1 panels.


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Also, using a ColorMunki on the same white balance and gamma settings with three iMacs and my Mid 2012 15" rMBP (with my second Samsung replacement) yielded all three iMacs looking the same and my laptop STILL looking different.


Many people on this thread earlier told me that whatever the quality of the panel, the same calibrator on all screens should bring the colors together so close I wouldn't notice the difference. However, the screen on my laptop looked way different still. Now I'm more irritated again; and I don't know what to do. I didn't get an error message from the calibration software.

Oct 26, 2013 10:32 AM in response to shayster98

Shayster98 try these steps it helped a lot with my SJA2 getting it in sync with my other monitors.


Please do the following in exactly this order:


Quit the ColorMunki Display application if it is running

Reset the monitor to factory defaults if the monitor’s OSD/menu has the option

Open “System Preferences”

Click on “Displays”

For the display being profiled, click on the “Color” tab

Uncheck the “Show profiles for this display only” option

Select a profile called “DisplayProfile_Linear.icc” by clicking on it in the profile list.***

Close the “System Preferences” window

Launch ColorMunki Display

Select “ColorMunki Display” from the Menu bar and then click on “Preferences”.

Set Display Technology type to correct setting for the display

Unselect “Enable ADC” to disable this option

Enable “Achieve display luminance value using video LUTs” option

Close “Preferences”

Profile the display using the “Advanced” mode as well as “D65” for white point and “Native” for luminance.

If these results are good, feel free to profile again to a specific luminance level.

Oct 26, 2013 10:34 AM in response to DomdiDom

I donne think they are working on the problem. I think they are working on the next gen which Will incluse IGZO screens and get rid of the problem. It's been a year and a half they are selling défective screens so why would they care suddenly ? They Will continue until IGZO. I do think however that they are trying to use more Samsung's screen that before in order to get less return. Sadly Samsung´s screens are yellower and they get return for that too. Personnaly I would not care for that as I prefer a warm white better than IR...

Oct 26, 2013 10:34 AM in response to shayster98

shayster98 wrote:


Also, using a ColorMunki on the same white balance and gamma settings with three iMacs and my Mid 2012 15" rMBP (with my second Samsung replacement) yielded all three iMacs looking the same and my laptop STILL looking different.


Many people on this thread earlier told me that whatever the quality of the panel, the same calibrator on all screens should bring the colors together so close I wouldn't notice the difference. However, the screen on my laptop looked way different still. Now I'm more irritated again; and I don't know what to do. I didn't get an error message from the calibration software.


I would love to see a photograph of all 4 displays together, both before and after calibration. In my experience my Mid-2012 15" Retina MacBook Pro with Samsung replacement still looks muddy, low contrast, and unnatural after calibration.

Oct 26, 2013 10:42 AM in response to DomdiDom

Do me a favour and listen to what your saying, you're a complete hipocrite. Telling me that I don't know what's what and you're suggesting exactly the opposite to me.


If you learn to read more accurately you'll see I never said that I KNOW something has been fixed but rather there may have been changes.


Do you have a Haswell machine to back up any of your theories so far?


I have the 15" Haswell and have had 3 bad displays on my mid 2012 rMBP, for fact the Samsung is much better in these new Haswell machines, so please don't sit there and think you know it all.


I'm basing the information I have on experience of the 4 displays I have now used and a few of the things that people have mentioned recently.


What's your information based on? The 8,350 replies on this thread more than likely but the last 100 or so are about the new machines so please do get over yourself.

Oct 26, 2013 10:38 AM in response to Rjsm70

Rjsm70 wrote:


Shayster98 try these steps it helped a lot with my SJA2 getting it in sync with my other monitors.


Please do the following in exactly this order:


Quit the ColorMunki Display application if it is running

Reset the monitor to factory defaults if the monitor’s OSD/menu has the option

Open “System Preferences”

Click on “Displays”

For the display being profiled, click on the “Color” tab

Uncheck the “Show profiles for this display only” option

Select a profile called “DisplayProfile_Linear.icc” by clicking on it in the profile list.***

Close the “System Preferences” window

Launch ColorMunki Display

Select “ColorMunki Display” from the Menu bar and then click on “Preferences”.

Set Display Technology type to correct setting for the display

Unselect “Enable ADC” to disable this option

Enable “Achieve display luminance value using video LUTs” option

Close “Preferences”

Profile the display using the “Advanced” mode as well as “D65” for white point and “Native” for luminance.

If these results are good, feel free to profile again to a specific luminance level.


Thanks! I actually did do all of that though; except the stuff in System Preferences, because your profile before calibration shouldn't affect your calibrated profile (left it on the stock Color LCD profile).


I did have ADC disabled and the adjust using video LUTS option enabled. I used native for both and D55 (I didn't use D65, but the important thing is the white balance was the same on both), so it's funny that they still looked different.

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