MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

shadow82x wrote:

I'm just amazed you can notice it so much. I'm a web developer/designer major and it doesn't really bother me like that. I am slightly tempted to go back and return it but probably wont because chances are it will be another LG display. With that said I think my old samsung display might of been leaning more towards the blue side even though I haven't heard anyone complain about that.

I think that's why Apple is using these screens: they don't cause image retention and people don't notice the yellow tint. But they're not all yellow. You can take your display in to an Apple store and compare it with units in the store and see that yours is yellow and theirs isn't, usually.

Here's a photograph of my yellow display on the right next to a unit in the Apple store.

envoy.2000 wrote:

brsm1990 wrote:

Does anybody know what the test is and how I can replicate it?

Try this one from Mitch Malone (Run a game or create a video using Handbrake before running per FAQ).

Other tests:

1. Backlight bleed: ( there are Youtube videos people have created with 10 hours of a black screen running to help you test this)

   Set the solid black background completely full screen and check under a pitch black environment (or extremely low light condition). If you notice any yellow or white bleeds and non-uniformed black colors than you have backlight bleeding.

2. Dead Pixels — simple test designed to make it easier to detect LCD "dead pixels" (pixels that are either stuck-ON or stuck-OFF) by displaying a series of solid background color pages for contrast.
3. Yellow Tint / Uniformity

   http://imac.squeaked.com/test.php

4. Creaking (Exterior): check if your laptop makes a “creaking” noise or is “flimsy” — this seems localized to an inch to the left or right of the trackpad and you have to push down more than you would if your normally resting yours palms. Also, lift the computer and put it back down to replicate it after doing it once. It's more noticeable when the computer is not on an even surface-such as a lap.

Aside from the backlight bleeding test, I've now run all these test multiple times (I may try the "dead pixel" one a few more times just to be 100% sure) but for the life of me, I cannot see any issues...

With the yellow tint/uniformity test, when I look at the 1st set of gray bars, there does seem to be a very very slight difference in tone/darkness i.e. the bottom one seems slightly darker overall, the 2nd set seems pretty much identical to one another, the 2x grey screens that come before each pair of gray bars look fine too. I'm really struggling to see any yellow on all four test patterns, there may be a very slight bit of yellow coming through, but that could just be my imagination, as when I look again (& again) I struggle to see it.

If anyone knows of better tests for these issues (inc. the backlight bleeding which I haven't tested yet, but the more methods the better), please do let me know! I also looked for muras, exploded pixels, & some other issues that were mentioned whose names now escape me (if someone can recall them please list them) but couldn't see anything like that, I also haven't tested for "freezing OS" yet.

N.B. I do definitely have the IR/P issue, but so far (finger crossed) it doesn't seem any worse than the day I first noticed it. Plus I've now implemented several measures that ensure it happens less frequently*, & when it does it's quickly countered.

Cheers.

*& is readily noticeable even less!

It's no doubt noticable in comparison. I've been looking at a few theards (some of which you posted in actually) and some comparisons are a lot more noticable than others. Which is odd because it's not consistantly wrong at the same level.

Tomorrow I'm going to compare it to my mom's 2010 macbook pro and see how big the change really is.

shadow82x wrote:

It's no doubt noticable in comparison. I've been looking at a few theards (some of which you posted in actually) and some comparisons are a lot more noticable than others. Which is odd because it's not consistantly wrong at the same level.

Tomorrow I'm going to compare it to my mom's 2010 macbook pro and see how big the change really is.

I agree that some comparisons are more noticeable than others; I'm on my third yellowed display and this one is the least yellow of the three. And someone on MacRumors posted a photograph at the Apple store and the Apple store unit looked more yellow. But for a lot of people these displays are noticeably yellow on their own.

It's interesting. Wonder what actually causes the yellow, and if it would get worse in time? I don't think my yellow is too bad, but its definetely there, I needed to analyze it for a bit.

How accurate is the yellow tint test at http://imac.squeaked.com/test.php ? My bars nearly look identical. The bottom one seems slightly darker (maybe) but barely. I'm still within my 14 day return window so I'm curious to know how badly yellow this is. Since I'm going to school in a few days (where there is no apple store within 100 miles) I don't want to risk getting a worse device with IR or dead pixels. I'd much rather take a slightly yellow tint.

shadow82x wrote:

It's interesting. Wonder what actually causes the yellow, and if it would get worse in time? I don't think my yellow is too bad, but its definetely there, I needed to analyze it for a bit.

How accurate is the yellow tint test at http://imac.squeaked.com/test.php ? My bars nearly look identical. The bottom one seems slightly darker (maybe) but barely.

The test is for uniformity. Most displays are evenly yellow. And most people seem to be OK with an evenly yellow display. I have no idea why; I prefer my whites to be white, not yellow. I don't know what causes the yellow. I don't know why Apple is doing this but clearly they don't care about colour accuracy. Even if someone wants to argue that perhaps the yellow displays are better that doesn't explain why there is a wide variation in the displays with some displays not being yellow at all. I don't think the yellowing gets worse or better over time the way that image retention can get worse or muras can appear. Many people report that the lower left region of the display can be darker yellow than the top. I have that on my current yellowed display but not on my previous two yellow displays and certainly not on my first display which was the most amazing thing I ever saw but I got it replaced because of muras (white spots).

To clarify further, my model is mid-2012 15" rMBP, LG panel, can't recall what week, but I received via post approx. new yrs day 2013.

shadow82x wrote:

ETA - Something odd I should probably mention is my screen model is different than most of the 2012 models giving issues. Don't know if that has anything to do with anything but thought I'd throw it out there. (LP154WT1-SJE1)

Yours is very similar to mine: LP154WT1-SJA1

I used: ioreg -lw0 | grep \"EDID\" | sed "/[^<]*</s///" | xxd -p -r | strings -6

Cheers.

Hmmm maybe you should try the black light bleeding test. I do have some bleeding mainly in the bottom left and top left. Again this picture makes it look a lot worse than what it is.

http://i43.tinypic.com/106bnva.jpg

(says my image is too big to attach here.)

Think I should return it? :/ This is how my Samsung monitor was too from mid 2012.

shadow82x wrote:

Hmmm maybe you should try the black light bleeding test. I do have some bleeding mainly in the bottom left and top left. Again this picture makes it look a lot worse than what it is.

http://i43.tinypic.com/106bnva.jpg

(says my image is too big to attach here.)

Think I should return it? :/ This is how my Samsung monitor was too from mid 2012.

Yeah that's how mine is too on black. I don't know if you should return it or not. I would return mine if I could until I got a display that wasn't yellow but I'm past the return period.

Upon investigation LP154WT1-SJE1 is the second generation LG screens and LP154WT1-SJA1 is the first generation.

Oh and good to know. The black light bleeding is probably like that on all of them. I even see it on other devices like my TV so I'm not too worried about it.

Since I don't think my yellow tint isn't too bad and it's pretty uniform across the screen I'll probably stick with this one for now. But ill truly decide that after comparing against a normal macbook.

shadow82x wrote:

But ill truly decide that after comparing against a normal macbook.

And you'll send us a picture.

Definetely. Maybe I'll get some in comparison to an external monitor too for curiosity.

shadow82x wrote:

Upon investigation LP154WT1-SJE1 is the second generation LG screens and LP154WT1-SJA1 is the first generation.

Crap. Source? Then again, newer generation doesn't always = better.

Honestly just googling the serial number. Your right it might not mean anything. Some people had flawless LG screens the first time around apparently.

Also out of curisosity, you should post a photo of your backlight screen bleed. Seeing if thats uniform with LG and Samsung screens. (Think it more so has to deal with how its assembled.)

Edit - I'm off to bed guys. It's super late here. Maybe I'll try to steal my brothers DSLR to get some pics up tomorrow. If not it will have to be the iphone sadly.

Photos are a bad way to demonstrate anything, especially iPhone photos, if you've got a decent DSLR maybe, but even then. We'll see a difference, but the difference won't be a real representation (unless you're a wiz in PS/similar & can touch-up later).

Having said that, maybe I'll have a crack at posting some shots using my Nokia 1020 (now that the yellow tint issue has supposedly been resolved with the latest update), as I don't have a DSLR any more.