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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by rrahimi,

    rrahimi rrahimi Oct 3, 2012 8:18 PM in response to JDThree
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    Oct 3, 2012 8:18 PM in response to JDThree

    Maybe the do that intentionally to limit the number of displays they "have" to replace...  I hope people who don't know better aren't just going home after being told "No, this one's OK" and just accepting the situation.

     

    Yes, the Apple test has been designed to hide the issue. It's copied exactly from the test that started on this thread with one exception: They chose a different background color that hides the problem.

     

    My only suggestion is keep the system warm before going in for the test. Get there earlier and do something CPU intensive. It makes the IR "feature" more pronounced.

    Seems kind of stupid to me, if they know that the LG is more prone to this issue and the Samsung has shown itself to be almost completely reliable in this issue, why on earth would they even offer up the possiblity of an LG screen?  Just means they've increased their chance of having to do it AGAIN...

     

    It's the "You're holding it wrong" approach to customer service.

     

    Hope your replacement is Samsung. Plenty have gotten Samsungs recently for replacement. This is basically the reason I encourage people who are within their 14 days to return using NQA policy. It's the only way to maintain control of the situation. I do understand that your IR showed up after several weeks though.

  • by mcbaobao,

    mcbaobao mcbaobao Oct 3, 2012 8:21 PM in response to rrahimi
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    Oct 3, 2012 8:21 PM in response to rrahimi

    Anyone notice all the new samsung screens are warmer/yellower than previous samsung screens? I have two side by side week 40 and week 27...

  • by rrahimi,

    rrahimi rrahimi Oct 3, 2012 8:25 PM in response to Horalko
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    Oct 3, 2012 8:25 PM in response to Horalko

    Well, when I found out I have a LG, I was scared a bit regarding everything what was written here, but it really seems to be perfect. I ordered it at apple.com on the 26th of August and received on the 4th of Sept in Washington DC.

     

    Have we heard this story before....  see you in a month.

     

    I would say that none or very few people who are satisfied with LG screens would come here and write to you about it. When you are happy with your product you don't care about forums like this, generally speaking.

     

    You don't care about forums when you are unhappy about a product either. Majority of people who have a problem don't come to support forums. The go to Apple Store, call Apple support or AppleCare, visit Bestbuy, etc.

  • by rrahimi,

    rrahimi rrahimi Oct 3, 2012 8:28 PM in response to mcbaobao
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    Oct 3, 2012 8:28 PM in response to mcbaobao

    Do they both have the same color profile? They physical display is unlikely to have changed but I'm wondering if Apple has modified the default profile to make Samsungs look more LG.

  • by mcbaobao,

    mcbaobao mcbaobao Oct 3, 2012 9:05 PM in response to rrahimi
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    Oct 3, 2012 9:05 PM in response to rrahimi

    Is there a way to load the profile from my earlier rMBP? Both are using default Color LCD but the new one is ML and the first one is still using Lion

  • by Barry Fisher,

    Barry Fisher Barry Fisher Oct 3, 2012 9:26 PM in response to rrahimi
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    Oct 3, 2012 9:26 PM in response to rrahimi

    What background color do they choose?  I see it best at 3333 gray.

  • by perky_pat_x,

    perky_pat_x perky_pat_x Oct 3, 2012 11:38 PM in response to Barry Fisher
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    Oct 3, 2012 11:38 PM in response to Barry Fisher

    I know this thread is focused on the rMBP but it seems the iPhone 5 has the same issue. It also suffers from image retention as the rMBP!

  • by Sound Evolution,

    Sound Evolution Sound Evolution Oct 4, 2012 12:15 AM in response to perky_pat_x
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    Oct 4, 2012 12:15 AM in response to perky_pat_x

    Oh does it? Well then Apple didn't lie, it is "normal" for (AH)-IPS screens. However it is for me not "normal" that Apple choosed to live with that whith their drive for "perfection"

     

    Especially knowing Samsung produce LPS panels who doesn't suffer from IR.

  • by Tadziak,

    Tadziak Tadziak Oct 4, 2012 1:59 AM in response to Sound Evolution
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    Oct 4, 2012 1:59 AM in response to Sound Evolution

    I just called Apple, wanted to return my rMBP and get a refund (after 4 replacements) and they are making me difficulties with returning because I had so many replacements. Has anybody ever had a problem like that? I'm on my last day of 14 day return period...

  • by Sound Evolution,

    Sound Evolution Sound Evolution Oct 4, 2012 2:18 AM in response to Tadziak
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    Oct 4, 2012 2:18 AM in response to Tadziak

    That is kinda ackward. Like it is your fault you had 4 replacements....... It is their fault for delivering a faulty product up to 4 times.

     

    In my case, I made the agreement with Apple Customer Relations that if the 4th is a bad screen again I get a refund.

    Tadziak wrote:

     

    I just called Apple, wanted to return my rMBP and get a refund (after 4 replacements) and they are making me difficulties with returning because I had so many replacements. Has anybody ever had a problem like that? I'm on my last day of 14 day return period...

  • by DomdiDom,

    DomdiDom DomdiDom Oct 4, 2012 3:36 AM in response to Tadziak
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    Oct 4, 2012 3:36 AM in response to Tadziak

    Wow, they really have no shame, can't believe they would try to cross that line.

     

    Another reason to not give them more than one chance, instead of giving you some sort of discount for getting it wrong 4 times their minds go to stealing your money.

  • by EugenK90,

    EugenK90 EugenK90 Oct 4, 2012 4:18 AM in response to mittense
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    Oct 4, 2012 4:18 AM in response to mittense

    Just called apple. After waiting to long for the replacement screen they offer me to exchange the whole machine.

    Hopefully they gonna pick it up on monday.

     

    The nice advisor on the phone knew about the LG and Samsung problem and said that they "should' deliver the 'right' one...hoping for a sammy this time.

  • by Apple0229,

    Apple0229 Apple0229 Oct 4, 2012 4:22 AM in response to mittense
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    Oct 4, 2012 4:22 AM in response to mittense

    Ok just a hint of hope for all LG owners inclusive of myself,I got in touch with a senior executive as i gave a call to him cause of me going paranoid over what's happened over the last month or so.He told me that Apple Engineer's are aware of this issue and the weasels image retention test was to evaluate the degree of burn in each Retina Mac had suffered from.Since Apple needs to outsource it's display from 2 different firms having different technologies Samsung's PLS obviously being less prone to IR did not suffer from this issue cause the inner clamshell didn't get that hot what they have observed in comparison with LG.Now IR happens as a consequence of pixels getting stuck and polarized which he said could be tackled by a firmware on which apple is working on.That's why on replacements and playing lottery games people still used to get hands on an LG rather than Samsung and that's why Apple hasn't stopped producing rMBP'S with Lg retina's.If so would have been the case that screen burn in was highly progressive and permanent the production of such display's wouldhave been halted in the pre production stage only since Apple "the world's largest firm"is not a fool to have not recognized this issue during testing and before placing order's in bulk it would have handed over an exactly similar specification list to both LG and Samsung.

    I m just hoping that this turns out tto be true and the pain that all of us are going through in this forum gets over ASAP

  • by JDThree,

    JDThree JDThree Oct 4, 2012 4:44 AM in response to Apple0229
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    Oct 4, 2012 4:44 AM in response to Apple0229

    Sounds like a load of PR hornswoggle to me.   The technicians I dealt with yesterday when going through the internal technical notes specifically said that the issue is not something that can be addressed by software or firmware updates.  This seems more in line with Steve Job's "reality field"...  Would love for Apple to prove my assumption wrong though.

  • by Sound Evolution,

    Sound Evolution Sound Evolution Oct 4, 2012 4:46 AM in response to Apple0229
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    Oct 4, 2012 4:46 AM in response to Apple0229

    If this is truth, why Apple keep sending people replacement over replacement? Why is not every Apple center imformed about this, and ont heir turn refer to the coming software update to the customer

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