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Q: MacBook Pro Retina display burn-in?

I first noticed this after my MBP [Retina] had gone to sleep, but: when returning to the login screen (since I have it set to require a password whenever the computer is idle long enough) I noticed what appeared to a very faint ghosting primarily noticeable on darker backgrounds.

 

After messing around with it a bit, there seems to be a fairly consistent in-display ghosting that occurs without much time at all; I was able to leave my screen on (a little above half-brightness) for about 10-15 minutes and the ghosted "burn" would be of the screen I left it on (which I deliberately reconfigured so that everything would be a new position).

 

Has anyone else experienced this? Is this a normal thing that I just have to get used to? It's not really noticeable at all in standard use.

MacBook Pro (Retina, Mid 2012), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jun 16, 2012 10:30 PM

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  • by andiruleu,

    andiruleu andiruleu Dec 4, 2012 11:18 AM in response to RJPMacbook
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    Dec 4, 2012 11:18 AM in response to RJPMacbook

    RJPMacbook wrote:

     

    Testing IR is pretty easy.  I set my background to the darkest grey, then turned up the brightness.  I put the checkerboard grid on the screen for 20 minutes.  When I switch to the gray background, the checked pattern remains for more than 5 minutes.  I also tested by leaving the Apple website open on my gray background.  After 10 to 20 minutes, I moved the browser window and could still see the header bar and other shadows.  These DO fade after 20 minutes or so, but my guess is that things will get worse over time (I've only had mine for less than 12 hours!).

    YIKS!

     

    I'll try that out when I get home from work. Are you planning to return it?

  • by mmorett,

    mmorett mmorett Dec 4, 2012 12:27 PM in response to tivoboy
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    Dec 4, 2012 12:27 PM in response to tivoboy

    This one hit the front page of Techmeme today. 

     

    http://www.thenbells.com/2012/11/apple-think-twice.html

     

    Wow.  This, hurts.  Almost embarassing.

  • by toronar,

    toronar toronar Dec 4, 2012 1:34 PM in response to mittense
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    Dec 4, 2012 1:34 PM in response to mittense

    I got lucky. Bought a 15" Retina Macbook Pro and after 2 weeks got it.

    Samsung Display, looks fine without dead pixels.

     

    Week 47 (chipmunks) / Week 48 (appleserialnumber)

  • by cschmeer,

    cschmeer cschmeer Dec 4, 2012 1:39 PM in response to toronar
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    Dec 4, 2012 1:39 PM in response to toronar

    Is it just me or is the amount of rMBPs with Samsung displays increasing?

  • by armin n,

    armin n armin n Dec 4, 2012 3:26 PM in response to cschmeer
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    Dec 4, 2012 3:26 PM in response to cschmeer

    we have been though this a dozen times now. they have their screens coming in bulk orders so one week its mostly LG another week or two its samsung. Give up people, ive given up. The only way to be almost sure is to replace the screen

  • by toyg,

    toyg toyg Dec 4, 2012 3:28 PM in response to mittense
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    Dec 4, 2012 3:28 PM in response to mittense

    I got my MBPr back in July (week 27/28), and it has a LG screen. It worked absolutely fine until today, and to be honest, I always thought people complaining about ghosting where either whiners or just very unlucky.

     

    Today I started noticing the Facebook banner "ghosting" on my dark backgrounds. Now it's getting worse and worse by the minute! I don't even need to keep the same image for more than a minute, and it'll ghost. I'll probably have the laptop replaced sometime after Christmas (I'm way too busy before that). I'd expect this sort of degradation after a year or two, but not even 6 months...? This is the first laptop I've ever bought from Apple, and I feel a bit let down.

  • by cschmeer,

    cschmeer cschmeer Dec 4, 2012 6:00 PM in response to mittense
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:00 PM in response to mittense

    I am not happy with my current MBP with HiRes AntiGlare screen, as it has backlight issues, but I have already gone through 3 Retina screens before (2 replacements, 1 screen replacement). The screen replacement was a Samsung without IR, but it had a massive yellow tinge at the bottom of the screen. I wonder if it's worth returning the MBP HiRes AntiGlare and giving the Retina lottery another try :/ The rMBP is really the one I wanted...

  • by tmathuram,

    tmathuram tmathuram Dec 4, 2012 6:30 PM in response to cschmeer
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:30 PM in response to cschmeer

    Be sharp on the SAMSUNG screens, please peal your eyes and look for SPREADING dead pixels...Its a nightmare this is my second SAMSUNG with dead pixels...waiting for a repair...This is awful, considering APPLE being a yardstick for Quality and Reliability. Even my resellers are furious at how many faults these retina can register.

     

    BEWARE OF DEAD (STUCK) PIXELS IN SAMSUNG SCREENS

    WILL ONLY BE VISIBLE IN A BLACK BACKGROUND

    DO CHECK 'EM RIGHT NOW BEFORE ITS TOO LATE !!!!

  • by Spetsnazos,

    Spetsnazos Spetsnazos Dec 4, 2012 6:33 PM in response to tmathuram
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:33 PM in response to tmathuram

    No dead(stuck) pixels on my Samsung.

  • by tmathuram,

    tmathuram tmathuram Dec 4, 2012 6:36 PM in response to Spetsnazos
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:36 PM in response to Spetsnazos

    Keep lookin!!!! develops over time...mine took almost 4 months for it to reveal dead pixels....rMBP is no safe bet :-(

  • by cschmeer,

    cschmeer cschmeer Dec 4, 2012 6:40 PM in response to tmathuram
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:40 PM in response to tmathuram

    Those are stuck pixels, not dead pixels. Dead = black, always visible. Stuck = always lit up (often in neon colours). Dead pixels are dead forever. Stuck pixels have a (very slim) chance of being "unstuck" with flicker videos.

  • by tmathuram,

    tmathuram tmathuram Dec 4, 2012 6:46 PM in response to cschmeer
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:46 PM in response to cschmeer

    Awww.. they did try the video remedy at my Service Centre but unfortunately wasn't helping...they report it as DEAD in the official repair sheet.....

  • by Doublee31,

    Doublee31 Doublee31 Dec 4, 2012 6:47 PM in response to tmathuram
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    Dec 4, 2012 6:47 PM in response to tmathuram

    I decided I've had enough all the worry about displays etc on the rMBP and purhcased a custom MBP Air 13.  My daughter has one and they are a beautiful fully mobile laptop (a drawback is I wanted the 15in).  I'll get a 27 IMac in Jan and wait a year or so for the next generation of rMBP which should have better screens and be lighter as well.

     

    It has been frustrating this issue as the retina is great once you start uisng it you dont want to go back.  My current Ipad is retina and the contrast with my first Ipad is signifincat once you go back and use the old one.  Also would never consider any laptop without flash storage - it is fantastic.

  • by Mozart,

    Mozart Mozart Dec 4, 2012 10:07 PM in response to mittense
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    Dec 4, 2012 10:07 PM in response to mittense

    So is it safe to buy retina macbook from apple store? what is the chance of getting this issue?

  • by mmorett,

    mmorett mmorett Dec 4, 2012 10:59 PM in response to mittense
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    Dec 4, 2012 10:59 PM in response to mittense

    Major conversation about this on Hacker News. 

     

    http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4865826

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