How to open or install fonts from a .suit file under Lion?
How to open or install fonts from a .suit file under Lion? Thanks!
Mac mini (Mid 2010)
How to open or install fonts from a .suit file under Lion? Thanks!
Mac mini (Mid 2010)
Look. Whatever you think is proper, there are a very significant number of fonts around which are packaged in .suit suitcases. You admit yourself pretty much anything can be packaged in a suitcase.
Now, I know there should not be in your view, and maybe in Apple recommendations over 15 years ago, but in practice, in a pragmatic way, you cannot tell someone who asks if a .suit font is installable in OS X that it cannot be, nor can you say that "there is no such thing as a TrueType .suit". Because in the real world, there is.
No matter how dogmatic you are about your font collection and the requirements you impose on your customers, you have no idea what is inside a .suit suitcase, so the only practical and useful advice must be "double click on it, and if Font Book shows you the install window, it can be installed". Font book will check the font for errors, so if it has been damaged, it is much safer than it was in the Mac OS days.
It is one thing to have been using Mac since 1984 (as I did since the 128 BTW), it is another to try and help fellow users with an open mind.
Look. Whatever you think is proper, there are a very significant number of fonts around which are packaged in .suit suitcases.
Yes, there are. As you noted, older versions of Fontographer automatically output legacy Mac TrueType fonts with a .suit extension. Newer versions did not. The current version being maintained and sold by FontLab, also does not. From page 301 of the manual:
Macintosh TrueType
Also known as: sfnt-based TrueType, TrueType suitcase
File extension: none
Pros: Works on all Macintosh systems, not cross-platform. May contain up
to 65,535 glyphs, supports Unicode.
While there are a lot of such Mac TrueType fonts out there with a .suit extension, it wasn't the norm. The TrueType fonts included with OS 9. See any extensions on them?
Abadi MT Condensed Extra Bold
Abadi MT Condensed Light
Andale Mono
Apple Chancery
Arial
Arial Black
Arial Narrow
Arial Rounded Bold
Aristocrat LET Fonts
Baskerville Old Face
Bauhaus 93
Bell MT
Bernard MT Condensed
Bertram LET Fonts
Bickley Script LET Fonts
BlairMdITC TT-Medium
Bodoni Ornaments ITC TT
Bodoni SvtyTwo ITC TT
Bodoni SvtyTwo OS ITC TT
Book Antiqua
Bookman Old Style
Bordeaux Roman Bold LET Fonts
Bradley Hand ITC TT-Bold
Braggadocio
Britannic Bold
Brush Script
Calisto MT
Capitals
Century Schoolbook
Charcoal
Chicago
Colonna
Comic Sans MS
Cooper Black
Courier
Courier New
Desdemona
Engravers MT
Equation Editor Fonts
Eurostile
Footlight Light
Gadget
Garamond
Geneva
Georgia
Gill Sans Ultra Bold
Gloucester MT Extra Condensed
Goudy Old Style
Haettenschweiler
Harrington
Helvetica
Hoefler Text
Humana Serif ITC TT
Impact
Imprint MT Shadow
Jokerman LET Fonts
Kino
Lucida Blackletter
Lucida Bright
Lucida Calligraphy
Lucida Fax
Lucida Grande
Lucida Sans
Lucida Sans Typewriter
LunaITC TT Bold
Machine ITC TT
Matura Script Capitals
Mistral
Modern No. 20
Mona Lisa Solid ITC TT
Monaco
Monotype Corsiva
Monotype Sorts
MT Extra
New York
News Gothic MT
Onyx
Palatino
Party LET Fonts
Perpetua Titling MT
Playbill
PortagoITC TT
Rockwell
Rockwell Extra Bold
Sand
Skia
Stencil
Stone Sans ITC TT
Stone Sans OS ITC TT
Stone Sans SC ITC TT
Symbol
Techno
Textile
Times
Times New Roman
Trebuchet MS
TremorITC TT
Verdana
VT102Font
Wanted LET Fonts
Webdings
Wide Latin
Wingdings
Wingdings 2
Wingdings 3
Microsoft Office used to include many such older style Mac TrueType fonts. Also without any extensions. Lots of other examples can easily be found, as I'm sure you could find plenty of examples the other way.
Does it matter? No, not at all. It's only for the matter of consistency. Long time Mac users expect legacy Mac TrueType fonts not to have a file extension. If there is one, it's automatically presumed to be the screen font suitcase for a Type 1 PostScript set. All for the sake a quick determination simply by looking at the file name.
Though even that doesn't work well. Many, as in virtually all of Adobe's older Type 1 PostScript Font Folio fonts, the screen font suitcase has no extension. So how is that a help to the user to determine at a glance if the file they're looking at is a legacy Mac TrueType font, or one part of a Type 1 PostScript font if neither has a file extension? It of course doesn't, and is just as confusing as it would be if they both have a .suit extension.
You admit yourself pretty much anything can be packaged in a suitcase.
Admit? When did I ever say it couldn't be done? Where are you getting these accusations from? You seem to like to make things up. Most fonts are a suitcase. Any TrueType font (.ttf or .ttc or legacy Mac), including OpenType TrueType is a suitcase. Apple's .dfont format is a suitcase.
nor can you say that "there is no such thing as a TrueType .suit". Because in the real world, there is.
I can only assume you are correct, because I have never seen a single legacy Mac TrueType font saved with a .suit extension in decades of using the Mac platform. And I can't even guess how many thousands of fonts I've worked with.
It is one thing to have been using Mac since 1984…
Sigh. The old, "I've been using Macs forever, therefore I am right." Can't tell you how many times that argument has been thrown out around here. If you want to argue computer experience as being better, I started using computers in 1974 with a dumb terminal in high school that connected to the mainframe in the downtown area. And just as meaningless as your statement.
I see you are less interested in helping other users than being always right.
I apologize for presenting facts.
1) Look at the fonts installed by OS 9 and tell me any of them have a .suit extension, or an extension name of any kind.
2) Look through the fonts that came with Office 2004 and older and point out any legacy Mac TrueType font that has an extension.
3) I agreed with you that older versions of Fontographer did indeed, by default, add .suit to legacy Mac TrueType fonts when generated from that older version of the app. It's right in the manual for version 4.7. I've just never seen one myself. Not having ever seen one isn't the same as saying you're lying. As I said, I've worked with thousands upon thousands of client supplied fonts. No one has ever submitted a legacy Mac TrueType font with an extension on the name.
And you accuse me of not having an open mind. Sheesh!
If you just want to install fonts under Mac OS X :
Double click on what you think is a font file. If you get the same kind of dialog as below, just click "Install Font" in the lower right corner.
Also, in general, in recent versions of OS X like El Capitan, if a font file can be installed, it's icon will show the letters Ag in its style :
How to open or install fonts from a .suit file under Lion?