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icloud a complete disaster?

So, I had pretty much a flawless computer experience going between all of my machines and devices.

I've since installed Lion in my machines and iCloud in all of my devices and what's ensued has been

an experience only surpassed by Windows users... maybe.


The number of problems is too many to list here, but my main question is... have you experienced the following and

if so, found any work-arounds?


-Lion has made all of my machines decidedly slower. One is a white, intel Imac, one is a 2 year old MBP, and too afraid

to istall Lion in my 2010 Mac Pro, as it's my main business machine and I can't afford to make it as sluggish as the others.

Crashes, slow performance, spinning wheels and irregular performance, all the norm. Anyone find a cure for this?


-Mail is awful. Not only is the newer mail app cluttered and confusing, I'm finding that mails are being delted and become

impossible to find. I'm assuming we're stuck with this new format once we "upgrade" to Lion?


My mail also regularly just stops working on all devices, sending a "incorrect password" message.... and then randomly

continues working some time after that.


-iCloud's web-based mail and services: wow, just when I thought it couldn't get worse than Mobile Me's web-based mail.

Literally, this service works for me about 50% of the time... at best. The other half, it says "cannot load mail page... send report to

Apple." The other half of the time, it does load... but usually only for a few functions before crashing again.


Because I'm too terrified to load Lion into my main (newer) Mac... I have to access my mail via the web-based server. What do I

do if it doesn't work?


Calender - Publishing calendars has become sketchy and so I'm basically going to stop. More oddly, I seem to be getting multiple

repeats of the same item on my calender... randomly.... and only on one of my machiens.


The only upside in all of this is that my iPod/iPad and iPhone seem to be fairly stable. Not as good as before the "upgrades" but

at least useable.


Just wondering if anyone else's computer life has been ruined like this... and what you did? Anyone else go back to Snow Leopard?

Do I consider moving to Google mail and just ditching all iCloud services? I can't imagine anything being worse. My lame Yahoo mail is

twice as dependable as my Mac Mail, now.


I'm coming up on 20 years of using Macs, and this is the biggest mess I've seen. Sorry for the rant, but I'm on the verge of commiting

computer suicide. (i.e. moving to Windows 8 or something equally awful.)


Any suggestions for any of this myriad of problems is greatly appreciated.

Intel iMac 24, Mac OS X (10.5.3), G5/G4/G4

Posted on Jul 14, 2012 3:56 PM

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Jul 16, 2012 2:58 AM in response to Julian Wright

Yes, I agree and actually subscribe to Macworld, so have read the various articles about it. I tried entering

FROM: bbc.co.uk and it seemed to work, which although straightforward now I know, seems to be a backward step in useability. It reminds me of early Windows, where you had to know a bit of MSDOS in order to do stuff that was transparently easy on the Mac.


Thanks very much for the info though. Although I don't like it, maybe I won't now have to change my email programme!

Sep 17, 2012 8:20 AM in response to WorldChampRecordings

Appe has now a corporate wide policy of absolute silence regarding MobileMe, which I have thus renamed VoldemortMe, as these names may not be spoken.


Complaints will be listened to, though I don't know why, as afterward these complaints are quietly closed and stored like the Arc of the Covenant being walked back into a government warehouse at the end of the fil Raiders of the Lost Arc, never to be seen again.


Apple has created a hater out of a 31 year lover by the way they have treated me concerning Mobil..ahh...VoldemortM. The biggest problems were with the lies about Mail and the summary cut-off of Back-to-my Mac for anybody using 10.6.8 or less.


Apple Remote Desktop resolves these problems directly and quickly, but instead of suggesting ARD to VoldemortMe Customers in an email in the spring, as many peoople with motorola macs CANNOT go past 10.5.8, which is still a pretty goood OS.


But they prefer to argue with you about it, blaming the customer for not seeing the light in the loss of access to their Macs in the field or their Macs at home or in the office, and feining sorrow that I as a customer am not satisfied with Apple's product offerings.


VoldemortMe customers, let us rememer, paid for their service, some back to the 2004 .mac/mac.com era, and likely few asked for I-cloud to be free.


Further, when writing to the imaginay figure called Tim Cook, whom I will now refer to as Capt. Hook, has his protective cadre saying that "upper management looks AT ALL cases made at both Customer Relations and the separate and higher Corporate Executive Relations, to where I escalated my complaints about VoldemortMe.


Both place the cone of silence over their heads whej VoldemortMe is mentioned, as Apple employees are under orders, which a very nice worker confirmed for me on Friday, 9/15, to meet all VoldemortMe inquiries with silence.


The problems with mail were lies, as the mail servers names had to be changed, and that is it.


Mail can be collected down to at least 10.4.11.


What should be done is that a system prefrences modue for Icloud should be created and distributed by the end of September for ) OS-X 10.4,5, and .6 as screen sharing and most other I-cloud features were part of VoldemoretMe work between these and 10.7 within your local network. (They've plenty of manpower at Apple to argue incessantly with massive disrespect of and blame for the customer, especially the core, loyal, paying customers like those who signeds up for VoldemortMe.)


Apple has simply made, after cornering one of the rats at Corporate Exeuctive relations, "a business decision," to leave core loyal paying MxxxxxMx customers off in the dirt on a mountain road in the Columbian mountains, like in the Film "Romancing the Stone" due to a bus purposefully disabled BY APPLE.


The disrespect is hideous.


And to cut off 10.6.8? Which is about 2 years old? That was to generate 10.7 sales. 10.5 is debatable, but it is not the fault of Apple computer users that Motorola machines still work.


I had actually someone from Apple in June actually say the following, after claiming Apple repair experince going back to Apple Lisa...


"Apple has never been concerned with Backward Compatibility Issues." Being able to help one's aged parents fix their (Motorola) Macs, which wer once my Macs, from, 500 or 5400 miles away was very,helpful to us all.


Thank you to Apple, who will at this point with the silence policy on VoldemortMe, not even acknowledge that one has only 3 choices to maintain contact with one's older Macs (although Macs running Snow Leopard can hardly be called old.)


These choices are, 1, forget about using your older macs remotely, 2 buy new equipment capable of running 10.7.2 +, or 3, which the don't offer, buy Apple Remote Desktop, which in june would not run on system 10.7.2 and cost 325us$ delivered.


In July, the 10.7 version was released for a price of a mere 80us$.


The end of MobileMe was as disastrous as its beginning, whereing they invisioned "chat-only" help, which is not good for those of us with hanicaps which make typing difficult.

Sep 17, 2012 8:38 AM in response to WorldChampRecordings

Apple has now a corporate wide policy of absolute silence regarding MobileMe, which I have thus renamed VoldemortMe, as these names may not be spoken.


Complaints will be listened to, though I don't know why, as afterward these complaints are quietly closed and stored like the Arc of the Covenant being walked back into a government warehouse at the end of the film Raiders of the Lost Arc, never to be seen again.


Apple has created a hater out of a 31 year lover by the way they have treated me concerning Mobil..ahh...VoldemortMe. The biggest problems for most I think were with the lies about Mail and the summary cut-off of Back-to-my Mac for anybody using 10.6.8 or less.


Apple Remote Desktop resolves these problems directly and quickly, but instead of suggesting ARD to VoldemortMe Customers in an email in the spring, as many peoople with motorola macs CANNOT go past 10.5.8, which is still a pretty goood OS, Apple said "you must run 10.7.2 if you want to continue with what you have, with the new name icloud.


But they prefer to argue with you about it, blaming the customer for not seeing the light in the loss of access to their Macs in the field or to their Macs at home or in the office, and faking sorrow when they discover I, as a customer, am not satisfied with Apple's product offerings.


VoldemortMe customers, let us rememer, paid for their service, some back to the 2004 .mac/mac.com era, and likely few asked for I-cloud to be free.


Further, when writing to the imaginay figure called Tim Cook, whom I will now refer to as Capt. Hook, has his protective cadre saying that "upper management looks AT ALL cases made at both Customer Relations and the separate and higher Corporate Executive Relations, to where I escalated my complaints about VoldemortMe.


Both place the cone of silence over their heads whej VoldemortMe is mentioned, as Apple employees are under orders, which a very nice worker confirmed for me on Friday, 9/15, to meet all VoldemortMe inquiries with silence.


The problems with mail were lies, as the mail servers names had to be changed, and that is it.


Mail can be collected down to at least 10.4.11.


What should be done is that a system prefrences modue for Icloud should be created and distributed by the end of September for ) OS-X 10.4,5, and .6 as screen sharing and most other I-cloud features were part of VoldemoretMe work between these and 10.7 within your local network. (They've plenty of manpower at Apple to argue incessantly with massive disrespect of and blame for the customer, especially the core, loyal, paying customers like those who signeds up for VoldemortMe.)


Apple has simply made, after cornering one of the rats at Corporate Exeuctive relations, "a business decision," to leave core loyal paying MxxxxxMx customers off in the dirt on a mountain road in the Columbian mountains, like in the Film "Romancing the Stone" due to a bus purposefully disabled BY APPLE.


The disrespect is hideous.


And to cut off 10.6.8? Which is about 2 years old? That was to generate 10.7 sales. 10.5 is debatable, but it is not the fault of Apple computer users that Motorola machines still work.


I had actually someone from Apple in June actually say the following, after claiming Apple repair experince going back to Apple Lisa...


"Apple has never been concerned with Backward Compatibility Issues." Being able to help one's aged parents fix their (Motorola) Macs, which wer once my Macs, from, 500 or 5400 miles away was very,helpful to us all.


Thank you to Apple, who will at this point with the silence policy on VoldemortMe, not even acknowledge that one has only 3 choices to maintain contact with one's older Macs (although Macs running Snow Leopard can hardly be called old.)


These choices are, 1, forget about using your older macs remotely, 2 buy new equipment capable of running 10.7.2 +, or 3, which the don't offer, buy Apple Remote Desktop, which in june would not run on system 10.7.2 and cost 325us$ delivered.


In July, the 10.7 version was released for a price of a mere 80us$.


The end of MobileMe was as disastrous as its beginning, whereing they invisioned "chat-only" help, which is not good for those of us with hanicaps which make typing difficult.


What is worse, however, is that given the absolute silence policy for VoldemortMe Complaints, APPLE CORPORATE EXECUTIVE RELATIONS KEPT calling me to aske me to call back and re-enter a discussion which they were under order not to have.


When I suggested this as a form of harassment, most of the email correspodence between the chap at Corpoate Executive Relations somehow magically disappeared fom my i-cloud mail.


Fortunately I saw what was hapening on one computer, and so I disconnecdted my laptop from the internet beforew waking it, and low-and-behold, the missing emails were still there.


After printing them, connected my Apple again to the internet, and these same emails disappeared.


Nobody in 30 years has succeeded in getting me to even consider leaving Apple for Windows, unti now.

icloud a complete disaster?

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