iSync and Palm OS 5

Ever since I've upgraded to Tiger, I've had trouble syncing my Palm OS 5 with iCal and Address Book. I've uninstalled and reinstalled Palm a dozen times. When I try to use the iSync conduit, I get a ton of error messges and iSync disconnects from the handheld (incidentally a LifeDrive). I've tried using Missing Sync, but after the first sync that took three minutes, the second one took an hour and ten.

I've uninstalled Missing Sync, Palm Desktop and Hot Sync. Reinstalled Palm but have no luck trying to use iSync. I really want to use iCal and the Mac Address Book.

Any suggestions? All the things I've tried were recommended by Palm. I don't know how to get third party support from Apple nor if there might be something wrong with iSync.

iBook G4 and iMac Intel, Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Posted on Mar 21, 2006 6:30 PM

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Mar 21, 2006 8:14 PM in response to PalmStuff

These issues can be identified and resolved, but—and I am trying to say this diplomatically—you can only do so by carefully identifying and correcting each issue, one at a time. Removing and reinstalling software is not the appropriate process to follow.

Let's begin with your current configuration. Do you presently have the following operating system and applications installed, regardless of whether or not you are presently using them?

• Mac OS X 10.4.5
• iSync 2.1.1
• Palm Desktop version 4.2.1 revision D

Have you successfully synchronized your LifeDrive to the Palm Desktop? Are you currently synchronizing contacts, calendaring data, memos and tasks?

Mar 22, 2006 6:10 AM in response to PalmStuff

If you would prefer to synchronize to the Address Book and iCal using iSync and you have version 2.1.1 installed, the next step is to launch it and select the Enable Palm OS Syncing… option under its Devices menu. One of three things are likely to happen as a result:

• the iSync Palm Conduit will be installed and configured and synchronization wil be enabled, or
• you will receive and error message when you try to synchronize to the effect that the HotSync Manager is not installed or has never been launched, or
• a synchronization event will start but your logs will be filled with messages concerning conduit conflicts

Mar 22, 2006 7:27 PM in response to Michael Lafferty

All right. I did as you advised. It seemed to sync then Palm Hotsync finished but iSync kept going. It's been two hours so far and the arrow on iSync is still spinning. The blue progress bar moved to about 1/3 and has not budged in the last hour and 1/2.

Also, I did take a peek at iCal and it did not sync my latest events from the handheld. I am thinking that the iSync may need to finish, but over 2 hours seems a little excessive.

Suggestions?

Mar 22, 2006 7:39 PM in response to PalmStuff

Strange. Did you pick Merge or Replace on your initial synchronization using iSync?

Do you have any idea how many contact, calendar and task records are involved? How are your contact and calendar options configured in the drop-down pane?

While it is not unusual, particularly during an initial synchronization, for the truth database and iSync to exhange data for a few moments, anything more than that is not normal.

You mentioned much the same experience on your second Missing Sync for Palm OS synchronization, and the issues are likely related.

Mar 23, 2006 5:07 AM in response to Michael Lafferty

To begin -- thank you for assisting me.

I did not know anything about the merge or replace option. I did leave the computer on over night and iSync never completed.

iCal data did not change. I am unsure about changes in Address.

Is there anyway to start over. Purge all data on the Mac and start from scratch? It seems to me that, with installing and uninstalling Palm and Missing Sync several times that something might be messed up somewhere. I may be off base with this idea.

Just trying to get it to work. So far you've gotten me farther than I've gotten before.

Thanks again.

Mar 23, 2006 6:20 AM in response to PalmStuff

If you have already synchronized using the Palm Desktop and your records there are complete and contemporary, then you can do this:

• back up your contact records using the Back Up Address Book… option under the File menu
• back up your calendars and tasks using the Back Up Database… option under the File menu
• delete your existing Address Book contacts and iCal calendars in each application
• export your contacts from the Palm Desktop as a vCard file
• export your calendars and tasks from the Palm Desktop as a vCal file
• import each file into the Address Book and iCal by double-clicking it
• launch iSync and choose Reset Sync History… from the Preferences… dialog
• perform a first-time synchronization, choosing to Replace the data on your handheld with the data from your computer

Do not choose to Merge your data, as that will not correct the issue. The step of resetting your synchronization history reinitializes the truth database and provides the option to replace the data on your handheld using iSync.

Mar 23, 2006 7:26 PM in response to PalmStuff

With the information panel open on the right side of iCal, you can change the calendar assignment of any event by highlighting the event on the calendar page, then selecting a calendar assignment from the scollable list in the information panel.

It's tedious if you have many independent events, but for repeating events, one change will change all occurances.

Mar 24, 2006 5:56 PM in response to grizzly marmot

I have Missing Sync. Tried it several times. The last time I tried it, the first sync took 5 mins. I tried one later in the evening and it took an hour and 10 and still did not sync all the iCal data. I've downloaded the "beta" version which is what they suggested.

I purchased Missing Sync several years ago to get the Clie to work right. Upgraded since. But lately I am ready to scrap it and iSync and just work with Palm Desktop.

Now that I've got everything pretty well cleaned out and synced again with Palm Desktop, it might be worth it to try Missing Sync again.

Have you had any problems with Missing Sync?

Again. Thanks for your responses.

Mar 24, 2006 6:35 PM in response to PalmStuff

Missing sync has been working really well for me - I've got an E2 sync'ing over USB and Bluetooth and a Z22 sync'ing over USB. So far no slow sync's. I can get internet over bluetooth with the E2 also. I have never used Palm Desktop to sync on this mac. (and if you want a sync nightmare try to sync in windows xp - I get to reinstall the palm desktop software quite often)

Mar 25, 2006 10:52 AM in response to PalmStuff

I'm not sure what you mean when you say it was your "… understanding that iSync in OS 10.4.5 resolved many issues that Missing Sync did before." I cannot thing of a single such resolved issue.

While the release of iSync [and the embedded iSync Palm Conduit] with Mac OS X 10.4 shifted it from essentially a stand-alone application to a component which uses the SyncServices framework, it resolved NOTHING with regard to its long-standing issues, and introduced several more.

• it does not recognize group and category labels
• it synchronizes address only if they are labeled home
• it has no provision to synchronize memos
• it often creates an Unfiled calendar in iCal [a new issue with iSync 2]
• it does not properly synchronize Address Book-generated birthdays which appear in iCal [also new with iSync 2]
• except for an initial synchronization event, 'synchronize' is the only available option
• you can no longer immediately reverse the effects of a synchronization event [again, this is new with iSync 2]

These are just a few of the issues carried forward to—or introduced with—and still present in iSync 2. It is less stable, predictable or reliable than earlier releases. I am on record as an intensive user of Apple technology for more than two decades as having said that the current release of iSync, taken in total, is probably the worst technology release I have ever seen from Apple. And, I sincerely mean that.

The SyncServices framework is a great leap forward, but iSync 2 is an abysmal application, made far worse by the antiquated iSync Palm Conduit.

It is worth pointing out that the installation and use of the Missing Sync for Palm OS under Mac OS X 10.4 or later does not add to your collection of software, it actually reduces it by replacing the HotSync Manager and iSync.

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