Battery life dropped considerably on Mountain Lion.

Jerry Nick wrote:

Many of us are following this discussion through e-mail and don't want to waiste our time reading this off-topic, personal mudfight. Therefore, gents: please stop this needless arguing.

When total BS is being posted I will point it out, if you don't like that turn your notificatins off.

some more reactions to Franc iPhone's discussion of the seed version of 10.8.3

[(Y)]

Well said, all.

what this one mean lol, [(Y)] , I'm a newbie in forums I always get yelled at, so I don't really care. . I have notifications on so that one day I will read that the issue is resolved and I can safely buy ML

what this one mean lol, [(Y)]

Thumbs up

Same here!

Are you listening, Apple??!!

some more reactions to Franc iPhone's discussion of the seed version of 10.8.3

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thanks all

Today. 7 hours and 35 mins usage with 7% and 35 mins to go before I plugged in power. I worked all day. The machine never went to sleep. I was running;

Safari (loads of Surfing for work)

Mac Mail - (constant)

Adium IM

Skype (IM / 1 voice call for 20 mins)

Twitter (updates, the whole time)

Excel, Word

Google Music, Drop Box, Google Drive, EverNote, JawBone (Synch)

This is the longest, full day. Half Brightness and no signifcant down time/sleep of the machine.

MacBook Pro. 2.3GHZ I7. 8GB, 512 SSD. Mountain Lion. Seeded with 10.8.3

Heaven - at last...

None of the 10.8.3 builds including the latest seed of build 12D54 fixed the battery issue for me. I have a Mid-2010 MBP with 294 load cycles on the battery. Maximum charge according to coconutBattery is 95% (12027 mAh). Battery has drained 5% within 15 minutes with only Safari and cocunutBattery running. My MBP loses 25-30% battery overynight while sleeping with the lid closed. Tempted to buy a new battery just to test it out.

For those that may have not read the whole forum, Csound has been discredited multiple times, his posts deleted by moderators and is wasting here time he should instead spend with a good psychologist. He spends time trying to establish superiority or insult people, besides the typical narcissistic fear mongering at trying to convince people that there is a problem with ML, Apple customer service or Apple batteries. In the end he is unable to address issues as simple as convincing Apple to solve his problems. A few months ago he was denied a replacement. His problem anyway. Typical of himself, he cannot concieve that many others in this forum got their problems solved, sometimes outside warranty. Takes some people skills as well, but hence why they are called skills.

To davidfromcarrabelle, ML is safe, and it is so on more than 99,999 % of units out there, including older units (2009/penryn architecture being perhaps a good cut off year). After nearly 20+ installations of ML, SL and Lion, by far ML is the best at battery management. In all cases where ML drained batteries, so did Lion and so did SL. In all cases turns out it was the battery, and as soon as replaced turns out, ML works well, no matter the age of the machine. After millions of ML downlods and upgrades, odds are it works extremely well on those macs. BTW did several windows 8 upgrades as well, and can assure you, way more complicated at troubleshooting than ML.

For battery basics, batteryuniversity is a number one website pick for intro. If your battery is performing under any OS, ML should make a difference inasmuch as it should improve your time. Anantech tries substantiated this.

Beisarius wrote:

For those that may have not read the whole forum, Csound has been discredited multiple times, his posts deleted by moderators and is wasting here time he should instead spend with a good psychologist. He spends time trying to establish superiority or insult people, besides the typical narcissistic fear mongering at trying to convince people that there is a problem with ML, Apple customer service or Apple batteries. In the end he is unable to address issues as simple as convincing Apple to solve his problems. A few months ago he was denied a replacement.

Hiding behind anonymity while defaming others is the refuge of a coward. All of your allegations are lies, care to back them up?

Come on Csound1, don't you recognize a troll when you see one? Just ignore him and keep this thread in topic. I don't care if he claims they used pee in the batteries, the issue remains for many of us and we'll just wait for a real solution 😉

Umm, yes, check your missing replies 🙂 you virtually replied to everything and everyone, and yet, goignnback, they are... absent! 🙂 Soo I do not experience narcissisitc flips, so you have zero effect on me. I fix my technical problems, you, well, you know better as to yours.

Dr ed,

If after reading this entire forum you still have not found your solution (calling Apple support, and fixing it) like the many others that did, then you require a pardigm shift in thinking. The problem is not ML, but your approach to a solution. There is nothing to fix other than your approach. You are welcome to prove this wrong. Had there been something wrong with your machine, any genius bar would have found it and recommended a solution. It is deductive you have not even tried because, at any genius bar i have been, regardless of staff (covering three cities), when they see what you describe they take action on any obvious issue. A draining laptop is spotted in minutes. I remember when they noticed the 3% drop in three minutes, how they created the work order and my machine was replaced with a brand new one. In the end, the issue was the battery.

ML works as advertised, no more and no less, and anyone writing to the contrary, or hoping some 10.8.3 is going to make a difference is not in the same reality as most users. I said the same before 10.8.2- and it turned out true. 10.8.2 did not fixed the problems of most of those that posted. Case and point, you ladies and gents have 10.8.2. My prediction? 10.8.3 will not fix your faulty battery, old and improperly used, or suddenly dying one. Umm, prove me wrong in a few days upon release? 🙂 When youre back we shall know. I suppose some will return writing "Shame Apple! I am going for some other brand." But Apple will not be the problem. When Arstechnica did its battery review, 10.8.1 had some shorter times but was not experiencing 50% time leaks.

They say quite a few things about those unwilling to listen. Thos that have not spent to replace batteries, or done so under warranty, you have no say as to this problem other than vociferating inaction. The steps a genius bar will do are the fol:

- Diagnostic. problem found? No

- Reinstall Found? Yes or No If yes

- Hardware replacement. Solved? most times yes. Not?

Hardware replacement. Solved? Good.

I replaced 4 defective MBa last months (check posts) for issues straight fromt he factory, including two defective batteries. In the end, solved. No wailing and pooh me vs Apple-will 10.8.3 save me? posting here in pain. Its funny.