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Q: Repairing Boot Camp after creating new partition

I'm running OS X 10.8 and Windows 7 x64 Pro.

 

After properly setting up Boot Camp to dual-boot Windows on my Mac mini, I decided to test whether or not it was true that creating another partition (a data partition for OS X) would interfere with Boot Camp.  Wikipedia claims it does interfere but without citing a source, whilst the Boot Camp documentation itself only specifies that the disk must be a single partition _prior_ to setup - there's no mention of whether the disk must be _kept_ that way afterwards.

 

I opened Disk Utility, reduced the size of my OS X parition from 420GB to 80GB, and created a new partition in the unallocated space.  Here's how it looks now:

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When I attempted to proceed with the process, I did receive a warning that doing this (and I quote), "may" cause problems with Boot Camp.  Seeing as it was inconclusive, I thought I'd give it a shot - nothing ventured…

 

Of course, it borked Boot Camp, otherwise I wouldn't be posting here.  Whilst OS X boots just fine, the Boot Camp partition now no longer shows up in the Startup Manager, though it does in the Startup Disk prefPane.  If I do attempt to boot into Boot Camp, I receive the following message on a black screen:

No bootable device --- insert boot disk and press any key

The advice given to someone who had this same problem was, "fix your damaged Boot Camp volume."  But I'm at a loss as to how to do that.

 

So, anyone know how to proceed now so that I can keep my partitions as is, whilst fully restoring normal Boot Camp functionality?

Mac mini (Mid 2011), Mac OS X (10.7.4)

Posted on Jul 26, 2012 11:28 PM

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 1, 2013 3:46 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 1, 2013 3:46 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Hi Chris

     

    If you have a wish to could you advise on this thread?

     

    I have asked this before of you, Thanks.

  • by Christopher Murphy,

    Christopher Murphy Christopher Murphy Mar 1, 2013 5:09 PM in response to Elling Magnussen
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    Mar 1, 2013 5:09 PM in response to Elling Magnussen

    Your disk, disk0, has five partitions. This isn't supported for Boot Camp disks. You can only have four: EFI System partition, OS X, Recovery HD, BOOTCAMP. You have an extra partition, apparently labeled Data.

     

    There is a distinctly non-standard, not highly advised, work around that will let you at least boot Windows, and also share one of the other partitions. You'll need to use gdisk to create a new hybrid MBR from the recovery menu, and add partitions 4 and 5. So you'll type 4<space>5<enter> into the proper field when prompted what partitions you want to add. This will allow you to see the partitions Data and BOOTCAMP from within Windows (and OS X also, of course). But you will not be able to see the primary Macintosh HD from within Windows. Make sure when asked that you do not set GPT partition #4 (MBR partition #2) as bootable. But do make GPT partition #5 (MBR partition #3) bootable. Then use the w command to write out the new partition tables and reboot.

  • by Berend de Meyer,

    Berend de Meyer Berend de Meyer Mar 3, 2013 8:31 AM in response to Scotch_Brawth
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    Mar 3, 2013 8:31 AM in response to Scotch_Brawth

    Hi Chris,

     

    Perhaps a bit off-topic, but I found out that:

     

    1. Paragon NTFS for MAC 10.0 is killing the WIN8 startup option in system preferences in OSX 10.8.2!

    2. Paragon HFS+ for Windows 10.0 gives a BSOD for HFSSYS in WIN8!

     

    I assumed that the cause of the startup option in OSX was a MBR mix-up but it was not. Contacting Paragon to look into the matter!

     

    Keep you posted! Cheers

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 3, 2013 8:33 AM in response to Berend de Meyer
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    Mar 3, 2013 8:33 AM in response to Berend de Meyer

    Berend de Meyer wrote:

     

    Hi Chris,

     

    Perhaps a bit off-topic, but I found out that:

     

    1. Paragon NTFS for MAC 10.0 is killing the WIN8 startup option in system preferences in OSX 10.8.2!

    That is common, common with any 3rd party NTFS converter on a Mac.

  • by Elling Magnussen,

    Elling Magnussen Elling Magnussen Mar 3, 2013 12:04 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 3, 2013 12:04 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Thanks alot Christopher! Good help!

  • by fab.b,

    fab.b fab.b Mar 3, 2013 12:30 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 3, 2013 12:30 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Well I'm out of ideas. [...|

    The only tools I know that are designed to resize file systems on disks containing hybrid MBRs are Wincone, iPartition, and Camptune. [...]

    I think this particular case, copying an instance of Windows to another disk (partition) while resizing in the process, is maybe more the realm of Winclone. [...]

    A pity it didn't work out with the conventional command line tools, I'd like to thank you in any case for your help and your patience!

    And finally your last hint was perfect. This is not at all meant as an advertisement more sharing the knowledge of fixing a problem: finally Winclone did its job very well!

     

    Thanks and best regards,

    Fab

     

    PS: Actually the partition table finally changed to this...not sure what I can conclude out of this:

    sudo fdisk /dev/disk0

    Disk: /dev/disk0    geometry: 121601/255/63 [1953525168 sectors]

    Signature: 0xAA55

             Starting       Ending

    #: id  cyl  hd sec -  cyl  hd sec [     start -       size]

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    1: EE    0   0   2 -   25 127  14 [         1 -     409639] <Unknown ID>

    2: AF   25 127  15 - 1023 112  53 [    409640 - 1826171904] HFS+       

    3: AB 1023 112  54 - 1023 119  13 [1826581544 -    1269536] Darwin Boot

    *4: 07 1023 138  25 - 1023  57  56 [1827852288 -  125671424] HPFS/QNX/AUX

  • by Christopher Murphy,

    Christopher Murphy Christopher Murphy Mar 3, 2013 12:58 PM in response to Berend de Meyer
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    Mar 3, 2013 12:58 PM in response to Berend de Meyer

    This sounds like a Windows 8 Fast Boot induced corruption when used with other OS's. I think you need to disable Fast Boot, but I really don't know anything more about it. You've got to realize Windows 8 isn't supported by Apple, and it wouldn't surprise me if Paragon were to say they aren't supporting NTFS file systems written on by Windows 8 either. So you should confirm that before risking your data, unless of course you don't really care about it.

  • by Berend de Meyer,

    Berend de Meyer Berend de Meyer Mar 3, 2013 1:25 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 3, 2013 1:25 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Hi Chris,

     

    Thansk for your prompt reply! I purchased both Paragon NTFS / HFS+ because they were adverticed as Windows 8 / OSX 10.8.2 COMPATIBLE! As far as I can determin now this is not the case!

     

    Windows gives me a BSOD on the HFSSYS and OSX ML won't boot properly anymore! Very disappointed in both products and even more so, because a post on the Wilders Forum, monitored by Paragon was not ever answered!

     

    If this was twitter I'd shout out loud #FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    But never the less I'm enjoying my evening! ;-)

     

    Greetings!

  • by Berend de Meyer,

    Berend de Meyer Berend de Meyer Mar 3, 2013 1:28 PM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 3, 2013 1:28 PM in response to Csound1

    Thnx, preparing to UNINSTALL both Paragon 'drivers'!

     

    The only they do is DRIVE ME NUTS! ;-)

     

    Cheers

  • by Christopher Murphy,

    Christopher Murphy Christopher Murphy Mar 3, 2013 1:37 PM in response to Berend de Meyer
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    Mar 3, 2013 1:37 PM in response to Berend de Meyer

    Paragon's web site says HFS for Windows supports Windows 8.

     

    But their notes for NTFS for Mac OS X doesn't list Windows 8 modified NTFS file systems, and so far I haven't seen anywhere on their web site an advertisement that it does. So I don't understand why you'd give them the fail whale when you're using an OS that as yet is unsupported by Apple. Quite honestly I think it's dangerous to use Windows 8, dual boot, on a computer contain data you care about at all. If it's a test machine, and the data doesn't matter, then great, go ahead and play with matches.

  • by Berend de Meyer,

    Berend de Meyer Berend de Meyer Mar 3, 2013 2:16 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 3, 2013 2:16 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Correct, but the NTFS for OS X ML kills the option in sys-prefs to boot from Windows 8 startup disk

    So for now uninstalled both and being a happy MACCER/WINNER again.

     

    It's not a 'play' machine but I make backups on a hourly/daily basis, so no worry about the data!

    Better safe then sorry!

  • by Berend de Meyer,

    Berend de Meyer Berend de Meyer Mar 3, 2013 3:16 PM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 3, 2013 3:16 PM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Happy to see BC startup again and booting just fine in OS X!

    BC-startup.jpg

    Installed the trial-version of MacDrive 9.0.5.14 UK! Now even I can read/write from/to my MAC_RAID0 (3TB) in Windows 8!

    Handy-Candy

  • by Scotch_Brawth,

    Scotch_Brawth Scotch_Brawth Mar 8, 2013 10:11 AM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 8, 2013 10:11 AM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Hi Chris,

     

    Sorry for not responding earlier to thank you for your advice.

     

    I decided to forego all the mucking around and simply(!) install a second drive in my Mac mini.  This is now done, and I'd appreciate your advice on how to set it up to dual-boot Windows 7 and an encrypted Mountain Lion partition - if that's even possible.  If it is, I'm suspecting it may be best to create the whole thing manually in gdisk.

     

    If you feel you can spare the time, I've got a thread here.

     

    Many, many thanks for your continued responses to this thread.

     

    S.

  • by Jacobn617,

    Jacobn617 Jacobn617 Mar 8, 2013 2:31 PM in response to Scotch_Brawth
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    Mar 8, 2013 2:31 PM in response to Scotch_Brawth

    Chris: I have also got a problem on resizing my data here:

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4871585

     

    If you would help I would greatly appreciate it.

  • by Myshho,

    Myshho Myshho Mar 11, 2013 11:07 AM in response to Christopher Murphy
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    Mar 11, 2013 11:07 AM in response to Christopher Murphy

    Dear Christopher,

     

    after some time when I did not find backup company in my region I found the courage to use dd and make image of my harddrive and then I used your suggestion TestDisk. This application found the lost "D:" partition on BootCamp and it was possible to copy all my data.

     

    I would like to thank you. I was very worry about my data and your suggestion saved everything.

     

    Thank you again for your help!

     

    Best regards

    Myshho

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