Currently Being ModeratedAug 23, 2012 11:59 PM (in response to Brian Covalt)
Saw your post so went off to invesigate more. Certainly no mention of 802.3ad fix in 10.8.1, user reports certainly suggest no 802.3ad fix.
Good olde Apple, good to their word......NOT.
About OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.1
This update includes general operating system fixes that improve the stability and compatibility of your Mac, including fixes that:
- Resolve an issue that may cause Migration Assistant to unexpectedly quit
- Improve compatibility when connecting to a Microsoft Exchange server in Mail
- Address an issue playing audio through a Thunderbolt display
- Resolve an issue that could prevent iMessages from being sent
- Address an issue that could cause the system to become unresponsive when using Pinyin input
- Resolve an issue when connecting to SMB servers with long names
- Address a issue that may prevent Safari from launching when using a Proxy Automatic Configuration (PAC) file
- Improve 802.1X authentication with Active Directory credentials.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2012 12:58 AM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
Developer 10.8.2 Update (Combo) is much bigger, 650 MB. But i think a lot of stuff is for the iOS 6 integration coming with the new iPhone on september the 12. i think that is also the release day of 10.8.2. i personally think the are investing all manpower in developing (fixing) the ios stuff instead of that problem that occours on machines with two ethernet ports, those machines that werent updates fors years, those machines for pro users, like us. apple became a consumer brand, and that is another example of it.
Currently Being ModeratedAug 24, 2012 4:34 AM (in response to phocus-it)
A little off the topic of this thread discussion, but some thoughts from me………
Although an iPhone user, iOS 6 integration within OS X is really not of importance to me.
Maybe it is what many other OS X users want/need, however to my mind the Professional/Business OS X/MAC users out their use MAC to earn a living (yes you heard right, not just playing on them), the fundamentals of a rock solid, dependable operating systems, that 'just works', is far more important.
Professional/Business users use MAC and in particular 'MAC Pro' because of their capabilities and credentials, they aren't seen as play things but more over work tools.
With the demise of X-Serve, the first shot over the bow of Professional/Business user community was made, maybe now without Jobs the suites at Apple want to milk the iPhone/iPod/iPad cash cow so much more, but I appeal for them to keep in mind their roots, without roots the tree can not stand up.
I'm surprised that after all the issues with OS X Lion and in particular OS X Lion Server, Apple put out the next OS X release as they have, fundamentals broken.
I've taken a lot of jibes from other business owners whom run Windoze, for my decision to go MAC, up until now i've always thought and felt vindicated for my position and actions spending the money on acquiring MAC's over vanilla Windoze PC/Servers, but now I do indeed wonder.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 4, 2012 12:48 AM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
Same here. MacPro 2010 Lion 10.8.1 + HP ProCurve
Currently Being ModeratedSep 7, 2012 7:12 AM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
Another one! MacPro 2010 Lion 10.8.1 + HP ProCurve
Currently Being ModeratedSep 18, 2012 3:32 PM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
10.8.1 Server, and same issue here. We have a Procurve 4208gl. Come on Apple!!
Currently Being ModeratedSep 18, 2012 3:42 PM (in response to Simplified Mac)
Apple makes no promise to read postings on this User-to-User forum, and NEVER responds here.
If you need a response from Apple, lean on your educational/corporate support people, file a Bug Report, use developer tech support, open an incident, or report it to Apple national 800 number or visit an Apple store.Mac Pro (Early 2009), Mac OS X (10.6.8), & Server, PPC, & AppleTalk Printers
Currently Being ModeratedSep 18, 2012 3:45 PM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
Grant. I totally agree. Bug report has been filed.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 18, 2012 11:43 PM (in response to Grant Bennet-Alder)
Thanks for your post.
I started this discussion thread back in July, on the 31st July I called Apple direct and logged a support request/ticket (see earlier post in this discussion).
Apple said they were fully aware of this issue, and that they would work quickly to resolve, and that such fundemental operating issues would likely be fixed within the first mountain lion service pack. In reality this did not occur in service pack 10.8.1 and from early review of 10.8.2 (developer) likely not to be solved in the next service pack, Apple have not closed nor further responded to my support ticket etc etc.
As mentioned in previous posts in this discussion, for the majority of mountain lion users, they will likely never ever need 802.3ad because they use WIFI or happy with or only have a single ethernet connection, it's really only business/commercial/pro users that need, will use 802.3ad to move lots of data.
On my side, I would really like time to go sit on the phone again for another hour, and repeat every week to keep the pressure up to get this fixed, but alas I need to work, run my business, to have my Mac Pro's work to earn money, so I went back to Lion.
When this issue ultimately get's fixed maybe then i'll go back to mountain lion, until then i'll just keep busy using Lion, it works!
Currently Being ModeratedSep 19, 2012 12:04 AM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
Did I miss something ? ? ?
I just went back to see if Apple had posted any solutions or updates against my (3) support tickets for this issue, and all have been CLOSED!!!!
So, what's the solution then?
Anyone care to help/enlighten me, as i'm Confused.com
Currently Being ModeratedSep 19, 2012 4:44 AM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
The crusade continues.
I've contacted Apple support again today, firstly to understand why my previous support ticket has a closed status, and secondly to find out where the fix is for 802.3ad network aggregation.
This is what I learnt during my 20 minute call.
Apparently all user raised support tickets are closed after one month, however dependant on the natuture/topic of the initial ticket and discussion with Apple an internal 'Engineering' ticket is raised for engineering to discharge, i.e. work up a solution/software fix. Apple don't publish the 'Engineering' ticket.
In my case an Engineering ticket was raised and has been on engineering's work list for some 7 weeks now and is still open, that is to say no solution or fix has been formalised for 802.3ad for mountain lion.
So as to the big question, 'when will the 802.3ad solution be coming'?
After speaking with AppleCare Enterprise team, I've been informed 802.3ad solution is as of today, not on the list for service pack 10.8.2! (N.B. This is subject to revision prior to public release, but it was thought unlikely).
Also no formal release date for 10.8.2, just in case anyone was wondering.
If the solution will be part of service pack 10.8.3 is currently unknown, all that could be confirmed is engineering are aware, have ticket to close, have known of issue for at least 7 weeks maybe slightly earlier as other commercial users may have also reported issue to Apple.
One good point that came out of the call with AppleCare Enterprise team was, I have now direct contact details for them, we have exchanged contact details and agreed to keep in touch. Maybe a more personable side of Apple.
So in summary, no solution (apart from Sleep work-around I posted orignally), no timetable to get solution, but apparently they're working it.
Staying on LION
Currently Being ModeratedSep 19, 2012 4:54 AM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
Thank you very much for this effort and reporting your calls with apple. i was currently searching for a third party solution for 802ad, but i think there is none. iwhile searching i was laughing at page 16 of the official mountain lion docs http://movies.apple.com/media/us/osx/2012/docs/OSX_MountainLion_Core_Technologie s_Overview.pdf
i knew that apple would put all effort in releasing integration for IOS 6, and then after that they would work on such "minor" problems, compared to the mass costumer programming challenges :-)
Currently Being ModeratedSep 19, 2012 5:16 AM (in response to phocus-it)
Yes agree quite amusing:
Channel bonding supports the IEEE 802.3ad/802.1ax Link Aggregation Control Protocol for using multiple low-speed physical interfaces as a single high-speed logical interface.
Obviously difficult things like restarting the test machine to see if the link comes back up, weren't on the test plan.
Currently Being ModeratedSep 19, 2012 12:14 PM (in response to Inquisitor-LSL)
10.8.2 just came out this morning - Based on the above information I surmise it has not been addressed. I am running on one gig-e interface and will not retest and borrow trouble at this point.
Thanks for the updates to all above
Currently Being ModeratedSep 19, 2012 12:54 PM (in response to macproser)
Thanks for your post.
I went off to see what is in service pack 10.8.2, can't see any mention of 802.3ad fix, so what I was told earlier today by AppleCare Enterprise appears to be correct. 10.8.2 Looks mostly to deal with iOS integration.
About OS X Mountain Lion Update v10.8.2 (Combo)
The 10.8.2 update is recommended for all OS X Mountain Lion users and includes new features and fixes. New features include:
- Single sign on for Facebook
- Facebook as an option when sharing links and photos
- Facebook friends' contact information and profile pictures in Contacts
- Facebook notifications in Notification Center
- Share scores to Facebook, Twitter, Mail, or Messages
- Facebook friends are included in Game Center friend recommendations
- Facebook Like button for games
- Challenge friends to beat your score or achievement
Other new features
- Power Nap support for MacBook Air (Late 2010)
- iMessages sent to your phone number now appear in Messages on your Mac
- From Safari and Mail on your Mac you can add passes to Passbook on your iPhone or iPod touch running iOS 6
- New shared Reminders lists
- FaceTime now receives calls sent to your phone number
- New sort options allow you to sort notes by title, the date you edited them, and when you created them
- Dictation now supports Mandarin, Cantonese, Spanish, Korean, Canadian English, Canadian French, and Italian
- The Dictionary application now includes a French definition dictionary
- Sina Weibo profile photos can now be added to Contacts
The 10.8.2 update also includes general operating system fixes that improve the stability, compatibility and security of your Mac, including the following fixes:
- An option to discard the changes in the original document when choosing Save As
- Unsent drafts are opened automatically when launching Mail
- Receive Twitter notifications for mentions and replies from anyone
- URLs are shortened when sending tweets from Notification Center
- Notifications are disabled when AirPlay Mirroring is being used
- SSL support for Google searches from the Smart Search Field in Safari
- New preference to have Safari launch with previously open webpages