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TUTORIAL: Disable Auto Save, Versions and bring back Save As

1. Quit the app(s) you want to configure.


2. Launch Terminal.


3. Paste the command below in the Terminal window, then replace 'name of app' with the name of whatever app you want to configure (e.g. 'textedit'), before hitting Enter:


defaults write -app 'name of app' ApplePersistence -bool no


Alternatively, you can configure all apps at once with the following command:


defaults write -g ApplePersistence -bool no


I don't recommend doing this, though, because, for some reason, it slows down the login process considerably.


For TextEdit only, you also need to run another command, as a workaround for errors that prevents it from functioning correctly:


defaults write -app textedit AutosavingDelay -int 0


4. Relaunch the app(s).


5. Enjoy you considerably less infuriating Mac! 😉


If you don't see any changes, a relogin will in most cases do the trick (if not, the app probably uses a non-standard saving mechanism).


Please note: Although this brings back Save As in most apps, this is sadly not the case with Preview and iWork.


To undo any of the above commands, run:


defaults delete -app 'name of app' ApplePersistence

defaults delete -g ApplePersistence

defaults delete -app textedit AutosavingDelay


P.S. If you want to remove data already stored by Versions, you need to delete the hidden .DocumentRevisions-V100 folder in the root directory of your disk(s).

Apple is dead to me.

Posted on Aug 1, 2012 11:02 AM

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Jul 19, 2013 3:08 PM in response to petermac87

But you were certainly the one who had something to add about a completely unrelated thread and felt compelled to intoduce it and it's unrelated to the discussion.


All I did was come acoss this thread while searching for someting on this topic, reply to the poster and you felt the need to gripe about it and pull in a completely unrelated thread that I haven't participated in in I can't tell you how long.


I was not after a bite. Don't assume you know what everyone is looking for.

Jul 19, 2013 3:28 PM in response to Alex Zavatone

Alex Zavatone wrote:


But you were certainly the one who had something to add about a completely unrelated thread and felt compelled to intoduce it and it's unrelated to the discussion.


All I did was come acoss this thread while searching for someting on this topic, reply to the poster and you felt the need to gripe about it and pull in a completely unrelated thread that I haven't participated in in I can't tell you how long.


I was not after a bite. Don't assume you know what everyone is looking for.

You are too predictable. 😁


Pete

Nov 10, 2013 7:04 PM in response to mbp20111

UPDATE: I looked into this a bit further, and it seems that it's just the older iWork '09 apps that can't use the Save As function.


All the other apps (textedit, preview, etc) are able to use Save As. So are the newer iWork apps (the ones just released). But I use the older iWork 09 apps the most. Is there anything I can do to bring the functionality back on those?

Nov 11, 2013 12:01 AM in response to baltwo

baltwo wrote:


defaults write com.apple."name of iWork app" ApplePersistence -bool no




I'm afraid that didn't work. It disabled versions. After I applied it, I cannot use the cmd+shift+s to duplicate the document.


But I still cannot get Save As... back.


The command I tried is:


defaults write com.apple.pages ApplePersistence -bool no

I have a theory. Perhaps somehow, with there being two versions of everything, the command is being applied only to the newer iWork '13 versions, but not the iWork '09 apps? Does that make sense? That's just me guessing because I have no idea how the command works exactly.


Nov 12, 2013 3:31 AM in response to baltwo

I have done some more experimenting, I have found something interesting:


after applying the command, iWork 09 (with nothing else installed) works as expected. versions is disabled and I get the Save As... command back.


However, after I install the iWork 13 apps as well, things go wrong. The Save As... command appears in the iWork 13 apps, but disappear in the iWork 09 apps.


It almost seems like iWork 13 kidnapping the Save As... command from iWork 09.




Now, can someone explain to me how the command works?


defaults write -g ApplePersistence -bool no


What does this do? Does it modify some .plist or something? If I understand what it does, then I think I may be able to figure out what's going on here,

TUTORIAL: Disable Auto Save, Versions and bring back Save As

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