Mail and changing default font (MessageFont, Universal Mailer, etc)

Then of course it will be the same, send an email to someone other account if you want to check.

Apple Mail does not send in HTML, RTF and Plain Text are your choices.

I use Outlook at clients offices, regardless of their settings Mail renders incoming in the font I chose rather than the one they chose.

I know of no way to have Mail apply font settings that will stick at the receiving end.

I am having exactly the same issue. If another mail.app receives my mail it all looks as I sent it but if I look at it on Webmail (gmail or whichever) or Outlook, Thunderbird etc...

Any help for this?

Csound1 wrote:

I know of no way to have Mail apply font settings that will stick at the receiving end.

Mail can in fact apply font settings that stick at the other end if you do it in the new message pane for each outgoing individually. Also Mail does send html mail. Anyone can see this by doing View > Message > Raw Source. "Rich Text" is just Apple's term for html. Mail only sent .rtf format prior to OS X 10.4. Finally, Outlook and Thunderbird both do let you send html mail with a specific font by default, which will be seen correctly by the recipient (unless they have turned off html mail).

2pacy wrote:

Any help for this?

Try selecting your text and setting your font in the New Message pane just before you send it, and make the font different than the one listed in Mail Preferences.

Tom Gewecke wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

I know of no way to have Mail apply font settings that will stick at the receiving end.

Mail can in fact apply font settings that stick at the other end if you do it in the new message pane for each outgoing individually. Also Mail does send html mail. Anyone can see this by doing View > Message > Raw Source. "Rich Text" is just Apple's term for html. Mail only sent .rtf format prior to OS X 10.4. Finally, Outlook and Thunderbird both do let you send html mail with a specific font by default, which will be seen correctly by the recipient (unless they have turned off html mail).

Thanks for the info but ..... does this work with Outlook at the receiving end?

Csound1 wrote:

does this work with Outlook at the receiving end?

Yes, it certainly should, assuming the sender has set it properly and that the user has not turned off html mail, in which case they would see whatever their local default is (e.g. TNR).

The ability to guarantee faithful exchange of messages using company-mandated fonts and other formatting is one of Outlook's important features I think:-) And Mail's inability to do so without intervention for every outgoing individually is a major source of annoyance for people trying to use it in the enterprise.

Tom Gewecke wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

does this work with Outlook at the receiving end?

Yes, it certainly should, assuming the user has not turned off html mail, in which case they would see whatever their local default is (e.g. TNR).

The ability to guarantee faithful exchange of messages using company-mandated fonts and other formatting is one of Outlook's important features I think:-) Any Mail's inability to do so without intervention for every outgoing individually is a major source of annoyance for people trying to use it in the enterprise.

A large percentage of my client base is City Government, HTML mails are rejected before the mail client even see's them, also many of them reject any emails with graphics attached (bye bye to the fancy signature). I have legal clients who are not so different. These are set by server group policies so are there whether the user likes it or not.

Csound1 wrote:

A large percentage of my client base is City Government, HTML mails are rejected before the mail client even see's them, also many of them reject any emails with graphics attached (bye bye to the fancy signature). I have legal clients who are not so different. These are set by server group policies so are there whether the user likes it or not.

Interesting! A wise policy, in my view. HTML email may not be totally evil, as some maintain, but I think in the end the recipient has an overriding right to see his mail in the font and size he wants to, rather than whatever has been dictated by the sender.

Tom Gewecke wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

A large percentage of my client base is City Government, HTML mails are rejected before the mail client even see's them, also many of them reject any emails with graphics attached (bye bye to the fancy signature). I have legal clients who are not so different. These are set by server group policies so are there whether the user likes it or not.

Interesting! A wise policy, in my view. HTML email may not be totally evil, as some maintain, but I think in the end the recipient has an overriding right to see his mail in the font and size he wants to, rather than whatever has been dictated by the sender.

Then we concur, and having seen the 'idle hands' down at City Hall I think restricting them to Plain Text is wise. The need to receive attachments (at the offices that ban them) is easily solved with an FTP server.

That might be a quick fix but not definitive. It's supposed that Mail should stick to the font I tell in its preferences, but not change it as it wishes.

The problem I am having is exactly like the exigence one (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4179448?answerId=19341330022#19341330022) above.

I see something in Mail that looks good that doesn't looks good everywhere else.

For example I reply to an email without touching any font and the first line has one font and the body another and even the signature which is supposed to be the same as everything else shows different parts in different sizes.