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Snow Leopard home directory group

When I perform a ls -l of my home directory after a reinstall of the Snow Leopard Disk I see a group of "wheel" before the installation disk had a group of "staff" for my home directory. Which is correct for a fresh install? Should the group for home directory be Wheel or Staff?

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MacBook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Aug 6, 2012 10:30 PM

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Aug 25, 2012 10:37 AM in response to macfrombrampton

To find the groups you have in your directory simple open up "terminal" type ls -l

Yes, that's pretty much the only way to find that information out. As I stated earlier, I did this through many different installs of OS X.

I believe that it is possible to have the updates, the Mac receives changed or directed to specific Mac's allowing changes like groups to occur.

I would imagine it's possible, as I mentioned seeing a couple of times. But it still makes no real difference. Either gives you access to root commands if you want. Being listed as wheel or staff is pretty much the same thing.

Aug 25, 2012 11:07 AM in response to macfrombrampton

However Kurt Lang and Mark Jambert are stating that having the group wheel is normal for a fresh install.

This is from my first post in this thread- I WOULD EXPECT THAT THE GROUP WOULD BE STAFF.

I believe that it is possbile to have the updates, the Mac receives changed or directed to specific Mac's allowing changes like groups to occur.

No, updates just dump their payload with the permissions that are set in the payload. The 10.6 DVD does some kind of permission repair, this is possibly where the group WHEEL is being set. Again from my first post in this trread- THE GROUP WHEEL SUGGESTS THAT YOU REPAIRED YOUR HOME FOLDER PERMISSIONS.



To find the groups you have in your directory simple open up "terminal" type ls -l

And just as easy to chown and chmod! READ my second post. More than likely, YOU, changed the file modes on the directories in your HOME folder. In any case, it doesn't MATTER whether the group associated with those directories is STAFF or WHEEL. THIS IS NOT A SECURITY CONCERN.

Aug 26, 2012 8:00 PM in response to Mark Jalbert

I did not ask for your theory on how it changed. I am stating that a change occurred which should not. The group should be Staff and no other group. No repair or disk utility was performed so the change of the Group from Staff to Wheel could of only occurred becuase of snow Leopard update or Malware on my snow Leopard software which I not likeley since it is a completely new Install.

Aug 27, 2012 4:46 PM in response to macfrombrampton

This is evidence of snow Leopard malware in which a fresh install was changed to allow a user group to be hanged from Staff to Wheel.

It is evidence of absolutely NOTHING. Explain to anyone how a fresh install can be compromised before you've even had a chance to download a single other file from the Internet.


You are clearly disturbed and are certain you will find a nuclear device in a thimble full of lint. If it makes you feel any better, I will not waste one more moment of my life catering to your grand delusions.

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