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Slow MacBook Pro. WAY too slow.

Hello everybody,


I'm getting quite tired of trying to understand why my Mac runs slow by myself, so I'm here to get ideas to solve my problem.


So, my MacBook Pro is slow.


I took some times to be specific:

- startup: it takes around 64 seconds (let's say around a minute) to boot up. I mean, from the moment I press the power button, to the moment I can type my password. [average of 3 consecutive reboots]

- startup: moreover, it takes 28 seconds after I finish typing my password to show the dock (and a few more seconds to be able to launch any app)

- Mail: on a fresh reboot, around 35 seconds to be able to open mail and open the "New message" window

- Safari/Chrome: on a fresh reboot, around 15 seconds to be able to type in the address/search bar


As an amateur photographer, I also make use of Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop CS6, and that kind of application takes AGES to open.


I'm quite a fast user, and tend to do a lot of things at the same time. But I can clearly remember I had no such problems a-year-or-something ago.

Besides this, I'm quite a diligent user: I regularly clean up space and empty the trash, I delete unused applications, I regularly quit (Cmd+Q) applications when I finish using them or when I need a lot of RAM (Photoshop).. I also do the disk utility tricks and restart quite often.



Can you suggest something to speed things up?

At this point, I can't find better explanations than natural hardware obsolescence.



Tech details:

- My MacBook's CPU is a 2,26 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo.

- I have a 160 GB system hard drive with 30 GB free.

- I upgraded my RAM to 4 GB after noticing the system slowing down with Lion.

- I installed a second 250 GB hard disk in place of the CD/DVD drive, using a caddy I found on Amazon

MacBook Pro (13-inch Mid 2009), OS X Mountain Lion, 4 GB 1067 MHz DDR3 RAM

Posted on Aug 16, 2012 8:13 AM

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Aug 17, 2012 7:30 AM in response to MV1005

Answers regading to the numbers:

  1. o.k.
  2. The BOOTCAMP is needed. The second disc is maybe the device, which cause some delays. You didn't prefer to have an external disk, which can be mounted and unmounted when needed? The problem is, that during boot, the kernel will load just needed driver. It is important to have small kernel. If some special hardware is needed with drivers which are not in the kernel, a kernel-module is loaded. If kernel and kernel-modules are both from Apple, fine. If the kernel-module is a third-party module, this can be problematic. And Apple have with their own hardware-platform which they support with their drivers. More details http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Device_driverVendors of several disks can use the framework from Apple to develop the drivers for their own disks. Sometimes vendors just use the actual specification so drivers in the kernel will support them. But those specifications sometimes change ... I can't really allocate the problem, but in the log I can see that you OS have problems with one device. Maybe the removed optical disk, while searching it, or the new disk which is "probed" by several drivers. I suppose your second disk is with the NTFS-partition, which is mounted during boot. This means during boot tuxera must be activated, will check its license, the partitions is mounted, while MAC OS awaiting the partition to be available, for logging with fseventsd ... this cause a lot of traffic between the processes, sending requests, waiting for response and start the next process. I love processes to start when I need them, not being started because of the eventuality of their presence.
  3. Automatic mounts are normally included in "Preferences", "Users & Groups", at your "Login Items". There you can remove the services which will start at boot/login time. But it's possible tuxera manage that - Sorry, I never use it. I did have a look on the /etc/fstab, which seems to be obsolete since Lion. Have a look at "Login Items".
  4. Could be the I/O problem mentioned in 2.
  5. I prefere to use Parallels or VirtualBox (VB belongs to ORACLE, former SUN and is OpenSource). The advantage is, I never need to change something on my system settings. The disadvantage is the less performance of Windows running in the box. If you use graphical software, like CAD porgrams, parallels will cover your needs. I use 2 CAD programs in parallels but in VB I have some problems using them. I don't use Windows for creating or editing issues, just because of compatibility reasons I keep a XP installations. Sometimes I recieve from customer data which I can't read on my MAC. Almost CAD data.

I don't know if this is a solution for you, but I would use parallels or VB. At the second disk I would use a MAC OS Extended (Journaled) partition. All the windows data I would pack on this partition with a dynamic disk size.

I use a similar configuration and I use Windows maybe one hour per month. But in the rest of the time I use MAC OS.

But notice, Windows will be less performant in the box.

Aug 17, 2012 7:45 AM in response to AmadeusBiteTheApple

Yes, if you intent to change/reinstall the OS, backup your data as Linc advice.

One, maybe noticeable thing, if one of the virtual possibilities are an alternative for you, both offer the possibility to have "exchange"-directories. Parallels even offer a coherence mode, in which the Windows programs behave like OSX apps. In this mode you can use all available directories.

Aug 17, 2012 8:29 AM in response to AmadeusBiteTheApple

This thread is getting dirty 😝

Overall, I think the most useful thing I can do now is reinstall the OS.

But it takes time, so up to now I posponed it and tried to solve my problems in other ways. Moreover, backing up my data to reinstall the OS will need.. well.. space. Part of the reason why I haven't done this yet is that I don't have external drives free enough to "take care" of my data for a while 🙂 I'll need to buy a new one or free up some space..



Just some explanations:

  1. I think the second internal hard drive is really useful, given the modest size of default Apple-provided hard drives. An external drive has two issues
    1. Is external, so it takes up space, which is uncomfortable when moving a lot
    2. Being USB, is SLOW. The internal SATA connector is way faster.
      I chose to install a second internal hard drive because I used the DVD drive just once every few months, and anyway I didn't need it so much.
  2. I needed Windows for work for a short period of time, but I needed to use it a lot, so I thought it would be good to have it physically installed on a separate partition with all of the system resources dedicated. Parallels was not an option because I didn't want to spend money for this short need, and VB.. I thought it was not performant enough.
    Also, I couldn't install it on the 2nd HD because.. well.. I needed to use the Windows DVD. And my 2nd HD is installed in place of the DVD drive. You see the point 😝



What I will do now:

  1. Back-up my data. Most important files are altready on the 2nd hard drive: I think I'll simply move/copy the other pieces of data down there.
  2. Reinstall the OS (as a single partition without bootcamp). I know this will be tricky. I have now Mountain Lion, can you point me to a guide with a proper method? Will I need to reinstall the DVD drive and use the original Snow Leopard disks? If this can be done via the recovery partition, would you suggest to reinstall the DVD drive anyway during the system re-installation? (maybe the installer "likes" finding a proper, unmodified system setup) Or just keep the 2nd hard drive where it is now?
  3. Somehow move my data all around to free up the 2nd HD.
  4. Re-initialise it with a native Apple filesystem (Extended Journaled)
  5. Out of topic, I will also need to free up my main external drive, and re-initialise it too, because I want to use it as a Time Machine backup disk.


It will definitely be quite a hard job.

Aug 17, 2012 9:12 AM in response to MV1005

  1. You are right in all points.
  2. Also right in all points. Of course remotely we all don't really definitely know what the source of the problem is. But you have to decide what to do and you decide. You just want to know, what would be the best way.

Ragrding to your todo's:

  1. My advice is backing up data always on a external drive, now and in future. If for some reason, your system will crash, a second partition with your data doesn't help you. The backuped data, being on a external drive, you always can attach it to another MAC and read your data. It's not so fast, but much more sure - and security is the reason for making backups, not the speed.
  2. Do you still have your install image ML?
    1. If not, indeed, you need to install a dvd drive (external is also possible) and install SL. After installation of SL use the migration assistant to import all your data and system configurations. Hope that works, regarding to AppStore. Because being in AppStore you can load ML again. Maybe a copy of the image would be good, so far you need one day to reinstall your OS. Do the copy, before installation process starts.
    2. The other way is of course the recovery method, which is described in http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4718?viewlocale=en_US I never did a "recover", I don't know if the installer expects a proper system. I suppose you don't need to care about that. The recover method anticipate a problem caused a system crash, which leaves some skeletons ... I think you don't need to care about the optical disk.
  3. If you backuped your data on a external device, the second disk is free. Suppose the disk is included in the backup.
  4. Yes, also very well described in the link above.
  5. This is a very good idea, regarding to the second 1. of this message.

Aug 17, 2012 9:41 AM in response to AmadeusBiteTheApple

I found out, you can load Mountain Lion from AppStore so far you buy it.

The AppStore ask you if you still want to load it, but you can download the image. This is a very useful way to receive the image.

After backing everything up, (I know, you need an additional external disk to swap some data), partition your second disk with Extended Journaled Filesystem, GUID Partition Table - and give the partition a name.

And then start to install.

Slow MacBook Pro. WAY too slow.

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