Aperture 2.x loupe doesn't work w/new Mountain Lion--help?

No I'm looking for my software which works fully 99.9% to be fixed. Age is a poor excuse. Mac OS X is just that; version 10. It's not version 11. If it was then so be it. We have had no new operating system just an update thus the software we paid for should be fixed to work on it. It's the same company. Stop making excuses for the largest tech company in the world.

I didn't just buy Aperture 2, been using it for years, and it has worked for me without any problems at all, and the plug-ins I use work fine too. I didn't see a point in upgrading to something that didn't have anything I needed. And still, loosing the loope still isn't reason enough to upgrade to Aperture 3. But things like this, make me wonder if I should stick to Apple apps on my Mac, since it's apparrent they may be using operating system updates as an excuse to force app updates upon us.

may be using operating system updates as an excuse to force app updates upon us.

But they did not force the operating system update on you, did they? Snowleopard is a very good operation - the best Apple ever made, imho. So why upgrade, if you do not want and need the iCloud features? But if you really want iCloud, then Aperture 3 is the photo software to use the features.

It's pretty standard practice in software for companies to stop supporting old versions once a newer version comes out. Bugs won't be fixed if they don't exist in a newer version.

I'd like to know where you think you'd get a better shake. If you found a bug in Lightroom 2 or Lightroom 3, it wouldn't be fixed either. Even worse, if you got a camera that shipped in the past year or so, it wouldn't work in Lightroom 2 or 3. The only way to get it working would be to upgrade to Lightroom 4.

These issues aren't unique to Apple. I really know of almost no software vendor that will fix bugs in software that has had a newer version available for 3 years. It's pretty much unprecedented.

Well I still use Aperture 2, so they didn't force me to upgrade. But I had to upgrade to 10.8 because I still needed to use an updated Xcode. But what you say about Adobe apps not being aupported anymore is not true, I still have an old Power Mac G4 digital audio with CS2 still on it, and once in awhile I still get updates for it from Adobe. It's true they don't have to, but it's good customer service. Apple does have great customer service, and the only company I've ever seen that will send a tech out in the middle of no where to honor their warranty.

I have to say I agree and disagree with the comments here. If I can explain my situation I think folks here on this thread and Apple themselves will agree that there should be a patch for A2 to work on 10.8. Here goes......

1. I didn't upgrade to Mountain Lion, I purchased a new iMac running 10.8 (lovely BTW, good work Apple).

2. I am a genuine user who purchases software. I have A1 and A2

3. The new version is of Aperture is 3, so I am only 1 behind. If the advancements are so huge and Apple feel they need more cash then they should call in Aperture 7 like all the other software companies.

4. I don't particularly need to be spending money on Apple software at the moment as I have just spent E2500 on a new machine.

Come on Apple, one last update to version 2 and then make the next update to v4 and stop the v2 support. If I am warned that 10.8.3 (three) my A2 will not work, then at least the choice and mistake will be mine to make.

For those who need to use the loupe and do not want to update I found this workaround. It seems the problem is with Disk Permissions, so with Aperture closed repair the disk permissions.

(Open Utilities, then open Disk Utility, select disk, then click on Repair Disk Permissions.)

Open Aperture, select Loupe, press "M" (Show Master Image) or "Z" (Zoom to Actual Size), now the Loupe should work for current session.

You will have to Repair Disk Permissions every time before opening Aperture for this workaround.

My Versions:

OS X 10.7.5

Aperture 2.1.4

Sorry skyguy but someone has already mentioned a similar answer to this and it doesn't work. Tried it last night but doesn't work for me in any instance.

DMarsh, That's interesting, because it works for me every time!

I disagree with you fundamentally. There is no reason why the old Aperture should lose it's Loupe facility because you upgrade your OS. It's merely built in obsolescence.

If you don't upgrade your OS then you start getting understandable problems with any new release software, but why should new software disable older simpler applications? Other than for profit purposes.

There is no reason why the old Aperture should lose it's Loupe facility because you upgrade your OS. It's merely built in obsolescence.

Every application is built on top of the operating system. It uses the system calls and libraries, and has to conform to protocols introduced by the operating system.

When a new operating system is released, older applications may be incompatible, because the code needs to be rewritten for the new OS. The last compatibility update for Aperture 2 is Aperture 2.1.4, released August 27, 2009. It ensures compatibility with MacOS X 10.6. Aperture: About the 2.1.4 software update

There have never been compatibility updates for later MacOS X versions, Lion or later. Aperture 3 is the upgrade for Aperture to be used on newer MacOS X versions since 10.7. When the newest MacOS X version 10.10 will be released this month, only Aperture 3.5.1 will run on this system.

Thank you for this prompt response. I have been advised to upgrade my Aperture, and I've seen Aperture 3 upgrade disks available sealed and unused for £19.

Is this a mistake to use this, I would naturally like to ensure full functionality, at least with my current OS 10.7.5 and wonder if getting an early A3.0 will be problematic. Should I simply download the latest Aperture for £54 from the App store?

I have been advised to upgrade my Aperture, and I've seen Aperture 3 upgrade disks available sealed and unused for £19.

To be able to install this upgrade you will have to provide your Aperture 2 serial number, and the Aperture 1 serial number as well, if Aperture 2 was an upgrade.

Otherwise, this upgrade installer will be perfect. After you install it, you cause the updaters on Apple's Support downloads page to upgrade to the latest version that is compatible with Lion (Aperture 3.4.5).

The AppStore is currently selling Aperture 3.5.1, and that requires MacOS X 10.9.

Before you upgrade, be sure to keep a backup of Aperture 2 and your Aperture library, just in case.

Apple recommends to rebuild the library before upgrading. The upgrade will make a major rebuild of the library and it is safer, if the Aperture library has no issues. See the release notes (Aperture 3.5.1: Release notes) - down at the bottom "Learn more":

Learn more

If you are upgrading your Aperture library from an earlier version of Aperture, here are some guidelines to assist you in a successful move to Aperture 3:

• Before upgrading, it is recommended (though not required) that you perform a rebuild of your Aperture library. To rebuild an Aperture library, hold down the Option and Command keys while opening your library in Aperture 1.5 or 2, then click the Rebuild Now button.
• Aperture temporarily uses extra space on your hard drive during the upgrade process. This is for the purpose of backing up critical library info and insuring the integrity of your data during upgrade. If you don't have adequate space on your hard drive to accommodate the upgrade, Aperture will display a warning dialog. You may need to move your library to a different hard drive with more space in order to upgrade it, and then move it back to the original drive when the upgrade is complete. Any space used by Aperture during the upgrade is released and made available to you again once the upgrade has finished.
• Keep in mind that fully upgrading a very large library is a one-time process that can take a long time; the process may take many hours or even overnight, depending on the size of the library. Once the initial database upgrade is complete, you can begin working with your Aperture library. However, post-upgrade processing will continue in the background for some time, as face detection and preview generation are performed. (A progress indicator and the word "Processing" will appear in the status line of the Viewer or Browser to indicate these operations are underway.) While you can work with Aperture while these operations are performed, you may experience temporary slow-downs. Optimal performance will return when all post-upgrade processing is complete.

Thanks once again for your speedy response, I really appreciate it.

This is good news, though I have to say I'll approach it all with a sense of impending trouble, following some things I've read, and will be very happy when it completes without issue.

My big worry is that I am upgrading because Aperture (as I have it at the moment) is not working at all well. It keeps hanging when you ask it to do anything (even send one picture as an email), and the loupe doesn't work either. There's no chance of me doing much with my libraries so I'll simply have to upgrade them one at a time (I have a few old archives which, as luck would have it, I have been meaning to sort through and eject old, unwanted files but haven't got around to).

So it's a case of hope for the best I suppose, but thanks for all the info, I'll let you all know how it goes.