SSD for A1342 6,1

Hello All,


Long time reader and lurker here. I've been doing research on a lot of different SSD drives for potential upgrade in my white MacBook (late 2009). One thing that I keep seeing reiterated on most new drives is that the Sandforce (2281) controllers are not compatible with the Nvidia MCP79 sata II controller on this pirticular gen of MacBooks as it will only run at 1.5Gb/s instead of 3Gb/s. I've yet to find an SSD that is confirmed to work 100% with this controller. The only drive I've been able to actually test is a 120GB Intel 330 and it only negotiated at 1.5Gb/s


Drives I've looked at (All 120 or 128GB)


Samsung 830

Intel X25-m, 330, 520

OCZ Vertex/Agility

Kingston Hyper X 3K, SSDNow V+200

Crucial M4

Sandisk Extreme

Corsair Force GT


I've also been reading alot on diskcompare about certain SSD drives without the sandforce chips, specifically intel built SSD drives. I'm wondering if those will operate at full negotiation? As it stands SSD drives for this computer and I might just be too much trouble for what they're worth.


Does anyone have experience with this macbook and an SSD that will run at full negotiation speed?

MacBook, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)

Posted on Aug 26, 2012 6:04 PM

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Aug 27, 2012 3:11 AM in response to jamisonmp

I own the following SSD.


512GB Crucial M4 (Marvell Controller) in my Late 2011 Macbook Pro 15 Inch


240GB Kingston HyperX 3K (SandForce 2281) in my Late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 Inch


128GB Kingston V200 (JMicro Controller) in my Late 2008 Macbook Uni - 3GB/s Negotiated Link Speed at first install - no issues to this day.


Before I installed the V200 - Tried the Crucial M4 and it also worked at 3GB/s Negotiated Link Speed - Firmware 0309 - If your Crucial came with firmware 0000F - you must downgrade to 0309.


Suggestion - go with the Kingston V200 for best compatibility.


One more thing to add - Ignore advertised speed on the box of the SSD or the reviews you read since those speeds are for SATA III. For SATA II it will be 40% less than the advertised speed.

Aug 27, 2012 9:39 AM in response to Bimmer 7 Series

One more thing to add - Ignore advertised speed on the box of the SSD or the reviews you read since those speeds are for SATA III. For SATA II it will be 40% less than the advertised speed.


That may depend on the components involved. Our 2010 mini (MCP89 SATA II controller) has an OWC 3G SSD (2181 controller) that reads consistently at 263 MB/s versus spec of up to 285 MB/s, or 8% less than spec. Writes are 205 MB/s versus spec of up to 275 MB/s or 25% less than spec.

Aug 27, 2012 10:43 AM in response to BGreg

BGreg wrote:

OWC 3G SSD (2181 controller) that reads consistently at 263 MB/s versus spec of up to 285 MB/s, or 8% less than spec. Writes are 205 MB/s versus spec of up to 275 MB/s or 25% less than spec.


True enough, but the OWC 3G is a SATA II drive. Most SSDs being sold out there are SATA III. So if the OP purchases a SATA II SSD, then advertised speed applies.

Aug 27, 2012 3:21 PM in response to jamisonmp

I wouldn't have bought OWC if I didn't like their product and them as a company (I've bought from them before). Great customer support. I originally bought an SATA III SSD from them, which only connected at SATA I speeds. And it's supposed to be backwards compatible. They said I'd need to use the 3G, and made the swap painless for me. Had the new drive in a couple of days, installed it, and all is well. Plus, OWC drives are assembled in the US, which, while not a decision point, is a nice benefit.


Seeing that negotiated link speed at 3 Gb/s is sweet.

Sep 26, 2012 10:35 PM in response to jamisonmp

Thank you for that discussion, it was very informative as I am in a similar boat. I have a late-2009 macbook 6.1 that i'm upgrading.


I was just wondering what you think about this SSD i saw on ebay. It seems to be a used 256gb samsung SSD from a macbook air, model number SM256C .(http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180982650569?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m 1423.l26490)

It should be compatible with my SATA II laptop right? I assume it would be, and it would automatically enable TRIM support as I am running OSX lion. Just wondering if there could be some issue i'm not seeing? I am going to use a data doubler and use the optical bay drive.


I'm also looking at some other's on ebay, but was just wondering if this could be a sweet deal. Most of the stuff on ebay i'm looking at is SATA III so it will be capped anyway.


Any thought's would be much appreciated!







Oct 13, 2012 1:20 PM in response to Bimmer 7 Series

Hi

I just bought the Kingston SSD NOW V200+ 240 GB and installed it into a late 2008 Macbook pro NVidia MCP79 chipset and am only getting 1.5 GB/sec negotiated speed instead of 3GB/sec .

Using the Black Magic Speed tester I am getting 107 mb/sec Write and 134 mb/sec Read speeds which is way slow though still seems faster than my old hdd drive, feeling a little short changed !

Any ideas how to fix this as Kingston seem to have no Apple support . Or have i just made a terrible error going with this particular ssd drive .

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