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Final Cut Pro 7 Slow Render, Frame size changing

I have a sequence open with the following properties:


29.97 fps frame size: 720 X 480, Compressor: DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, Audio Rate: 32.0 KHZ


The Clips I'm editing with have the following properties:


29.97 fps, 854X480, DV/DVCPRO - NTSC, 32.0 KHZ



Everything was going smoothly until this one clip I dragged in with the exact same properties changed it's frame size. There had been two perfect black bars on the top and bottom of all the shots up until this one clip that changed frame size and covered up those black bars. It's also taking forever to render any small edit I do with that troublesome clip. I was thinking it might have to do with the difference in frame sizes from the sequence properties and the clip properties. I tried to change that by clicking: 1. Sequence 2. Settings.... and changing the width and heigth but it wouldn't let me. Anyone got some tips?

Macbook Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.6)

Posted on Sep 5, 2012 9:26 PM

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Sep 6, 2012 3:11 PM in response to Jim Cookman

I don't want black bars or anything, the truth is I don't really care. I just want to finish this project and for everything to look consistently normal or consistently abnormal. Originally I dragged these clips onto a sequence and the sequence asked if it should adjust to accomodate the clip settings. I told it yes, so I assumed that the sequence settings adjusted to the clip settings. Since I assumed wrong, I created a new sequence and set the settings to 854x480. I copied the entire project on there. Now, in that new sequence when I click "Fit to Window" in the Canvas Viewer, all of the clips are surrounded by an inch of black on all sides instead of just top and bottom. Is that how 854X480 is supposed to look? Also, that same troublesome clip is taking up the whole screen with no black bars. I don't understand why it is taking up more of the screen than the other clips in the timeline with the exact same settings. Thanks for your help.

Sep 6, 2012 6:36 PM in response to tcross04

I think what happened was the original sequence (with its 720X480 settings) scrunched all of that 854X480 footage down causing the black bars. Now that I dragged my project into a new sequence with 854X480 settings, all the old black bar clips remain the same but new clips that I drag in take up the full screen. So actually now I just want all the black bar footage to take up the full screen. Is there a way to do that without having to go back and re-drag in all those clips?

Sep 6, 2012 9:48 PM in response to earloberman

Yes, it sounds to me like the pixel aspect for some of your clips is wrong. If you will double click a clip with black bars and go to your viewer window, click on Motion, click the triangle by distort, take note of the number by aspect ratio. Now, do the same for a clip without black bars. The number is probably different.


If you would take screen grabs of the canvas window and viewer window (viewer window showing the aspect ratio number) I may be able to further assist you. I apologize I'm not super familiar with pixel aspect off the top of my head, as I'm usually working with the same footage all the way through a project.

Sep 6, 2012 10:33 PM in response to earloberman

Okay, that helps. Match the settings for "scale" and "aspect ratio." and see if that works. If not, the down and dirty way to fix it is to put your play head over a clip in the sequence, highlight the clip, and in your canvas window grab a corner, and while holding shift, drag the corner out to fill your screen and just eyeball the correct aspect.

Sep 7, 2012 7:18 AM in response to tcross04

Where did you get that footage? 854x480 is a display size. It sounds like your footage was ORIGINALLY anamorphic DV. Which is actually 720x480. You would need to tell FCP that the footage is anamorphic, either on ingest, or by checking the anamorphic column in the browser-- EXCEPT that somehow the clips are baked in to a non standard size-- like someone exported them at the anamorphic display size. You would do this for example if you were making a file for projection or computer use, where the anamorphic flag would not necessarily be recognized. But you normally would not do this if you were still working with the footage in an editing program.


You might also note that the top clip above is set to less than 100% scale.


What happens if you select all in your sequence and Edit>remove attributes>basic motion and distort?


Quite a mess you've built for yourself, or someone handed you.

Sep 7, 2012 8:54 AM in response to earloberman

Another thing that I'm noticing with the screen grabs you attached, it looks like your screen may be setup with the wrong aspect ratio under your OS system settings. The pictures look as though your screen is squeezed. This will certainly make it more difficult to see problems, and you may find that your output looks different on other screens setup with the correct aspect.

Sep 8, 2012 2:07 AM in response to Jim Cookman

Yes, I think the footage was originally anomorphic dv. I must have clicked the wrong dimensions when I ran the clips through mpeg streamclip. I have since deleted the orignal footage unfortunately. But when I select all the clips and remove basic motion and distort, all of the clips fill the screen in the viewer. At least everything is consistent now. Thank you very much for getting me to that point. The only trouble I"m having now is that it takes forever to render every little change I make to the project. tcross, how do I remedy the squeezed screen dilemma? Thanks for all the help!

Final Cut Pro 7 Slow Render, Frame size changing

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