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Larry Israel wrote:

Intuit no longer offers the version I'm using. So I don't want to download from them, but I see I can also buy it on DVD. That should make it all ligit.

Huh? Q '07, the PPC one, ended at version 16.0.2. The version Intuit's offering at their site, 16.1.4, works with SL, Lion, and MtnLion. The one you have doesn't work w/Lion and Mtn Lion. Get it from Intuit's site.

He indicated he hasn't DL'd the Lion plus version, but was thinking of getting it from MacUpDate, leading me to conclude that 16.1.2 was a typo. There's no end of the discussion. All flavors of 16.1.x worked for me, leading me to conclude it should work for everyone, as does the currently installed 16.1.4 version. If it doesn't for you, then I conclude the problem's with your database and not the app.

Let me take one specific function of Quicken, say "split transactions."

Now for this hypothetical, let us assume that version 16.1.3 would crash anytime a user who has split his transactions attempts to use this version.

Another user comes along who has never split his transactions and has no problem with version 16.1.3.

While this latter user could say that:

All flavors of 16.1.x worked for me, leading me to conclude it should work for everyone, as does the currently installed 16.1.4 version. If it doesn't for you, then I conclude the problem's with your database and not the app.

...his conclusion would be WRONG!

Csound1 wrote:

Intuit offers the correct version for Lion or Mountain Lion, it is at the location I posted.

But since it has given other users troubles, I choose to run an earlier version. I've used Quicken since '96 with virtually no trouble. I'd like to keep it that way, so after reading this entire thread, I'm sliding into this carefully.

MlchaelLAX wrote:

It is an anomoly that MacUpdate is directly offering a download of 16.1.4 for no fee in lieu of just offering a link forwarding the reader to the Intuit website.

I got to the MacUpdate page I posted by searching "Quicken for Mac 16.1.2", so I did not see which other versions they offer. For now I want to run just that version and not upgrade, so I was specific in my search.

The odd part was them listing a "shareware" price, but I couldn't find out how to pay it. I've ordered the DVD from Intuit and I'll let you know which version shows up.

baltwo wrote:

Larry Israel wrote:

Intuit no longer offers the version I'm using. So I don't want to download from them, but I see I can also buy it on DVD. That should make it all ligit.

Huh? Q '07, the PPC one, ended at version 16.0.2. The version Intuit's offering at their site, 16.1.4, works with SL, Lion, and MtnLion. The one you have doesn't work w/Lion and Mtn Lion. Get it from Intuit's site.

I'm running OS 10.8.4 (on MBP 3 months old) and QI 16.1.2 does run on this configuration. I have ordered the DVD from Intuit just to be legal, but for now will keep running with this previous version.

Message was edited by: Larry Israel

Wait, wait, wait!

I asked to download 10.1.2 from the MacUpdate site. I've just discovered that they gave me 10.1.4. I've not done much with it yet, but it does seem to be working. Moving forward with a little trepidation. I don't have time for any drama right now.

What's the difference. All 3 versions work for somebody, the point is there is a version that works. I don't understand why you need a optical disk version. I don't even have an optical disk player on this machine. Only the older machines even have a optical disk player. At any rate the original question in this part of this too long thread has been answered by quite a few users all with the same answer.

MlchaelLAX wrote:

Yeah: I got lazy on my iPhone and didn't check the spelling.

Honesty is a state of being that is not measured in dollars.

I'll agree with that, but I don't agree that honesty = heroism, it should be the norm.

I spell very well, until it's an iPhone, then gibberish is never far away 🙂

Honesty is rarely the norm when one is confrontrd with free software.

And it is heroic for Larry to go out of his way to puchase a copy from Intuit after MacUpdate falsely lead him to believe he could pay a shareware fee.

Csound1 wrote:

There is a word for that, 5 letters, starts and ends wth a T.

Ah: must be THEFT!

Of course, if it is "fair use," not so much!

Grey area, I often download free trials and such, I buy what I keep and it was a trial so no transgression there. Some of the trials continue to work without paying (a loss of some features perhaps) but that would be unfair use.

As Larry obviosly met MacUpdates download critera I would argue that it is indeed his, without payment. But I may be wrong.

Csound1 wrote:

I'll second that as well, and as for the people who use software without paying for it?

There is a word for that, 5 letters, starts and ends wth a T.

Let's not forget, if you are a member or a regular poster on many sites, they will give you some software titles as a thank you. I've received several over the years this way.

I've been a PC Quicken user for many many years, many on a VMware W7 virtual box. I've lost my patience and trust with Quicken, and found this long thread. Quicken's poor programming quirks have always annoyed me (e.g. hard coded limits on things like the number of split lines), but I've always soldiered through. This month, I hit some maximum number of lines allowable in an account, and while taking reasonable steps to fix the problem, Quicken deleted ALL of my records and now cannot decrypt my QDF file. On top of that, maintaining a secure windows box is awfulness, and of course there's no tablet support, so I just give up on the whole awful Quicken/Windows mess and have resolved to start fresh.

Based on postive reviews of two good options, and really negative reviews of everything else, the two best options appear to be Money by Jumsoft and YNAB. I see lots of plausible negative feedback here on other options. Is there positive experience with Money or YNAB?

It looks like YNAB stores your personal financial data in the clear (!!!, http://forum.youneedabudget.com/discussion/17667/another-dropbox-breach-please-a dd-cloud-encryption), an egregious security risk. This leaves Money, which apparently syncs only over the LAN. One hopes that if and when they add iCloud support they will put all your financial data in a DES3 container.