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time machine slow in 10.7.5

Since updating to 10.7.5 using the Combo updater, Time Machine on my iMac seems much slower. Anyone else seeing this behavior?

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7.5), iMac 21.5 in.; i5; iPad 32Gb iOS 5.

Posted on Sep 21, 2012 7:23 AM

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Sep 29, 2012 12:03 PM in response to Todman21

This has become quite the debacle for me. I noticed TM was running slow after the 10.7.5 update the other day. However, I did not attribute the slow-down to the update. Instead, I decided to format my external drive and back the whole thing up again.


What a mistake!


For the last several days, I have tried unsuccessfully to backup using TM. First of all, it estimates the entire backup will take 3-4 days. It's 390gb of data. 3-4 days??? Really?


For the last several days, I've been getting an error because TM didn't want to copy one of my files over and it would stop backing up after 12 hours or so. Unfortuately, TM doesn't pick up where it left off. It has to start over. After many failed attempts and many new partitions and erased backup drives (yes, two different drives), it has been backing up for over 24 hours now. However, it has ONLY backed up 90 of 390gb with 3-4 days left to go. This is ridiculous. I work from home and I have no other backup solution in place. I would be devastated losing my data. Obviously, starting over from scratch was a mistake on my part but TM should not take this long.


Does anyone have a suggestion for me?

Sep 29, 2012 12:18 PM in response to Bruno321

Update:


I seem to be having luck disabling Spotlight and then backing up again at normal speed.


Please use the following Terminal command to disable Spotlight:


sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist


To re-enable Spotlight (presumably after Apple resolves this issue), use the command:


sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist


If you absolutely rely on Spotlight, consider downloading and using Alfred instead. It works great!

Sep 29, 2012 1:32 PM in response to Larry Nolan

Here is what I am trying today. I took a USB2 external drive and partitioned it into two partitions. One is Time Machine 2 drive, the other is Sandbox. I used Superduper to create a Sandbox copy of my 10.7.5 Macintosh HD; that leaves all the /User/ directories on Machintosh HD (my iMac's internal drive) but copies all the Mac OS X directories to the Sandbox drive and makes the drive bootable and the /User/ directories are shared by both Sandbox and my iMac. I can boot into the Sandbox and any changes made to OS X do not change what's on Macintosh HD.


I then installed 10.8.2 on Sandbox and am now running from Sandbox under 10.8.2. It took 10.8.2 a few minutes to index the Sandbox drive after booting. I started Time Machine under 10.8.2 and am having it do a backup to the Time Machine 2 volume which is on the same physical drive as Sandbox. It's been running for 35minutes now and has backed up 13 GB of 105GB total. That's certainly better than 10.7.5 with the Spotlight/Time Machine problem, and yes Spotlight is running. I expect the speed is limited by USB2 speed and that the backup is on the same physical drive as OS X (Sandbox). I'm going to let it continue to run, but so far 10.8.2 runs pretty good for being on a USB2 connected drive and I've tried Airplay, Safari, iTunes, Crashplan and all seems to be working.


Not sure if when this is done whether I'll install 10.8.2 over my 10.7.5 Machintosh HD or wait some more days to see if Apple comes up with a fix.

Sep 29, 2012 1:41 PM in response to Larry Nolan

Spotlight is the problem. No question about it. I disabled it in the Terminal using this:


sudo launchctl unload -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist



Once that was done, Time Machine was blazing again.


To enable Spotlight when you're ready, use the Terminal again and the following line:


sudo launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.metadata.mds.plist



I was stuck in a loop (trying to delete old backups and Repair using Disc Utility) that seems to have trashed my LaCie 1TB external hard drive. Great Lion update, Apple. Maybe 10.7.6 will fix this. Because Mountain Lion users are also complaining bitterly about Time Machine integration ludicrously slow backup speeds.

Sep 29, 2012 3:28 PM in response to Larry Nolan

This evening, I performed the following to try and resolve this (with Spotlight disabled);


  1. used Onyx to reset the Spotlight cache
  2. deleted the Spotlight cache folder
  3. rebooted the machine
  4. re-enabled Spotligh
  5. OS X starting Spotlight - 5 mins to calculate; 18 mins, 48 mins, 1 hr, 4 hrs, 7 hrs, 18 hrs
  6. attempted a backup using Time Machine - no difference so stopped the backup
  7. disabled Spotlight
  8. perform backup - worked perfectly, back to normal performance


Spotlight will be left in the 'disabled' state.


Very poor job by Apple over this!

Sep 29, 2012 4:28 PM in response to Larry Nolan

Backup by Time Machine from my Sandboxed 10.8.2 to a new Time Machine volume on the same drive as the Sandbox took 3 hours 32 minutes for 105.5 GB via USB. Definitely not having the same issue as seen with 10.7.5. Spotlight on 10.8.2 was running, not disabled.


Will have to decide whether to update to 10.8.2 or wait to see what Apple does. I was planning to go to 10.8 at some point, but I usually wait till .3 or .4 to let things shake out.

Sep 29, 2012 5:08 PM in response to Video Killed The Radio Star

Can someone please spell out the exact step by step instructions for using Terminal to disable Spotlight?


After updating to OS 10.7.. Time Machine gave me a 4 day estimate to backup 207GB so, thinking it was my external drive, I reformatted the external and tried again. When that didn't work I figured the external was corrupt so yesterday bought a new one but got the same result. TM is now frozen at 25GB of 207GB.


Thanks for the tip on disabling Spotlight but I am not a developer and I'm unfamiliar with using Terminal. When I tried entering the script in Terminal I was prompted for a password but couldn't see where to enter it.


P.S. This latest update has also disabled my Samsung printer and there is no updated print driver avaialble from either Apple or Samsung.

Sep 29, 2012 5:21 PM in response to Bakerchief

Can someone please spell out the exact step by step instructions for using Terminal to disable Spotlight?

The launchctl unload and load commands are one way.


Another way leaves the service running, but turns it off and on. (Might want to turn it back on after making your TM backup.)


From Terminal:


sudo mdutil -s /Volumes/*


just displays the current indexing status of all volumes.


sudo mdutil -a -i off


turns spotlight indexing off for all volumes (-a is all - otherwise you can specify volumes if you have multiple disks/partitions). TM should be able to run at normal speed then. Then:


sudo mdutil -a -i on


after your TM backup completes, turns indexing back on, such as it is in 10.7.5


Other threads (and the mdutil man page) have info about how to delete the spotlight database info via mdutil or physically removing .Spotlight-V100 folders ... but starting fresh did not improve this 10.7.5 problem for me at all, so won't repeat it.

Sep 29, 2012 6:26 PM in response to Bruno321

Txs Bruno. Did as instructed but had to reboot. Started TM again and was alarmed when eta was 74,312 days - 203 YEARS!! However, it seemed to settle down quickly and I am now at the 3 hour mark. Funny though, the back up size has gone down from the original 207GB when I was running spotlight, to 181GB. Does spotlight eat up all of that memory?

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