testing bluetooth signal strength

a lot of us with intel macs are having connectivity issues with both bluetooth and WiFi. I know a lot of things to do to examine signal strength, throughput, ping times, etc. to evaluate the WiFi connectivity after trying various changes and updates. but I don't know how to do any test of the bluetooth connectivity--other than yes or no. My subjective sense was that my bluetooth mouse was sluggish and the bluetooth keyboard was slow, compared to when connected to a PPC mac mini. But I don't know any way to verify that. Any signal strength indicators hidden somewhere in the mac software? downloadable? any suggestions appreciated.

mac Mini, Mac Mini (intel), iMac (intel), 12" PBook, Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Posted on Apr 5, 2006 4:39 PM

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Apr 29, 2006 3:21 PM in response to mtnMan

Apple just released a software update for keyborad
performance for intel machines. Fine print says it
improves reliability for keyboard and mouse. After
installing, subjective performance of BT mouse is
dramatically improved! Looks like it might not have
been a BT-specific problem afterall. However, my
wired mouse did do better, but now it also seems
improved.


Apple just released a software update for keyborad
performance for intel machines. Fine print says it
improves reliability for keyboard and mouse. After
installing, subjective performance of BT mouse is
dramatically improved! Looks like it might not have
been a BT-specific problem afterall. However, my
wired mouse did do better, but now it also seems
improved.


I'm really shocked to find so much reported on this forum about the bluetooth problems with mice and keyboards on core duo machines--and Apple apparently doing practically nothing to stop the bleeding. I'm hugely disappointed. After 25 years of being a dedicted wintel user, my ipod addiction finally led me to take the plunge and try out a mac -- a core duo mac mini. Cost twice as much as an equivalent wintel machine, but I expected to experience the joys of the "tightly integrated" experience all my mac-loving friends told me about. But since deciding to go with an apple wireless mouse and keyboard, this experience has been a nightmare. Just like everyone else has reported, I can't use my keyboard from more than 3 feet away, and my mouse acts like it's skating on ice. So I had to start disassembling my mini looking for loose wires, search for and download firmware updates, deal with level 1,2,3 technical support ****, and at the end of the day I have found that I'm experiencing all of the downside of the wintel world at double the price and 25 years less experience in figuring out how to fix these types of problems. I live 5 miles from Apple HQ, and in this part of the world this type of negative experience can dampen momentum very quickly. I hope this and other similar posts will get this problem the high-level attention it needs. In the meantime, my migration to the mac is on hold.

mac mini core duo Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Apr 30, 2006 2:17 PM in response to mtnMan

mtnMan —
Thanks for the update,
and glad to hear that the Apple Keyboard Update 1.0 (for Intel-Based Macs) is providing improved performance for your Apple Wireless keyboard / Mac Mini (Core Duo).
Anthony —
Please accept a warm welcome — or is it welcome back? — to Apple Discussions. Sorry to hear that you're feeling so frustrated...
You may misperceive a couple of things about Apple Discussions. Please note that this is intended fyi, and not critically in any way.
(1) These are user-to-user forums, where we help each other with technical issues. "Rants" are neither appropriate nor effective — the latter because this is not a mechanism for providing feedback to Apple. The Moderators/Hosts of Discussions are swamped trying to keep things running smoothly, and although Apple folks may read individual threads now and then, seeking feedback here isn't their focus.
There are a number of feedback mechanisms available to you. Since this is a question that arises every so often, I'll copy my "canned response" as a footnote, in case you're interested in sending constructive feedback to Apple.
(2) Your statement that
"Just like everyone else has reported, I can't use my keyboard from more than 3 feet away, and my mouse acts like it's skating on ice."
isn't accurate. Not everyone has experienced problems with their Intel-based (or PPC) Macs and Bluetooth-enabled device(s) — and not all of the cases where users have experienced difficulties match what you've described. Furthermore, as with all user forums, trying to make informed judgments based on folks' threads seeking help with problems simply lacks perspective. What would you think if the CDC tried to determine the existence and scope of an epidemic from a brief visit to a single emergency room?

By all means, there are real and frustrating problems — but there are many others who don't have a problem, and have no reason to post here to say so.

If you'd like help resolving a problem, great — please initiate a thread about it, and participants will try to help. If not, please consider driving that mile, or utilizing one of the feedback mechanisms listed below.

Thanks for your consideration.

Sincerely,
Dean



If you want to "send" feedback to Apple, here are some good mechanisms for reporting "bugs," providing miscellaneous feedback, &/or seeking solutions to seemingly Sisyphian Mac conundrums.
(a) Contact Apple directly. If you have a new Mac or an active AppleCare Protection Plan (APP), calling, e.g., AppleCare Technical Support can be very helpful. This service is free during the first 90 days after purchasing a Mac; after that, a fee applies — except that an APP extends the free service for 3 years. If the problem isn't solved during the conversation, you'll be given a case number for use at an Apple-Authorized Service Provider (AASP — limited to authorized hardware problems) or for future reference. If the problem persists, your subsequent call(s) may be forwarded to higher-level support folks. AppleCare Tech. Support is also one means that helps Apple to recognize widespread problems and focus their engineers on finding solutions.
Your post indicates that you've done this — but not whether it was helpful. (Or perhaps the *s are an expression of this.) If none of the levels of AppleCare technical support have been helpful, I hope that word filtered up to Apple software engineers, who are probably working on solutions. Imo, the keyboard firmware update that mtnMan posted about is a case in point.
Different parts of Apple's website provide issue-specific feedback options, including:
(b) Mac OS X Feedback
(c) Product Feedback
(d) AppleCare / KnowledgeBase Feedback includes several categories — suggested KnowledgeBase improvements, broken links, and software download difficulties — and there are also feedback links from most individual KnowledgeBase Articles
(e) BugReporter (requires free ADC membership).
Apple provides FAQs and a "Bug-Reporting Guide" for using the latter. Simon Tatham's How to Report Bugs Effectively is also an excellent resource.

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