What is the best Video Card I can get for an Early 2009 Mac Pro?

Hi everyone,


I'm looking to upgrade my video card in my early 2009 Mac Pro. I currently have two cards in there and I want to update one of them. - An ATI Radeon HD 4870 with 512mb VRam, and an NVidia GeForce GT 120 with 512mb VRam, neither of which produce very impressive numbers in Cinebench.


I do a little video edititng (FCP, AE, Premiere, Motion, etc) , dabble in 3d (Blender), and game a little. I would like to know what is the best video card I can currently get that can handle these three things and give me a decent boost in performance. I'm looking to spend between $300 and $1000, but cheaper is better.


I researched it a little and looked at what Mac Pro's currently come with (The ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB, available seperately here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=726539&Q=&is=REG&A=detail s)


and was wondering if...
1. This is the BEST card I can get? And...
2. Will it work in my machine?


I see ATI has some nice cars out now like the Fire Pro Series:
http://www.amd.com/US/PRODUCTS/WORKSTATION/GRAPHICS/ATI-FIREPRO-3D/V8800/Pages/v 8800.aspx


Do these work with our Mac Pro's? I can't find platform compatibility specs. (I know these are crazy expensive, but I would like to know if they work)


Thanks for any and all feedback


K-

Mac Pro, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), 2.66 Quad Core

Posted on Oct 3, 2012 10:47 AM

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Feb 2, 2014 9:07 PM in response to Kevin808

I have a feeling that you aren't understanding the central point.


A GTX780 (or 680 or 660 or 770 or 760, ad nauseam) has what is called a DisplayPort. It is EXACTLY 100% the SAME EXACT THING as MDP that goes into the first round of LED Apple displays.


DisplayPort is the BIG version and MINIDisplayPort is the SMALL version that Apple used.


You just need to go from big to small.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812200691


The DP port of those Nvidia cards is already capable of running up to 4K at 30Hz and sometime after 10.9.2 drops will even be able to do 4K at 60Hz. It has plenty of bandwidth for 2560x1400.


So, you are kind of like Dorothy, you've been wearing the Ruby Slippers the whole time, you just didn't know about them.


You can verify this by looking at what ships with Mac K5000.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133486


Look at the pix and specs, it includes the very same adapters.

Feb 2, 2014 9:31 PM in response to DPArt

Thanks for further clarifying.


I do understand that these are just all different sized versions of essentially the same thing a video signal to your monitor, it's just that one person can't possibly know about every little peice of hardware out there, it's also possible this was not available when I bought the Kanex.


"So, you are kind of like Dorothy, you've been wearing the Ruby Slippers the whole time, you just didn't know about them."


LOL, Pretty close, but it was probbably more accurate to say "Go in the back, knock twice and the little old lady will let you in the secret closet where you will find a sweet accessory to your Ruby Slippers that will dress up your outfit nicely and not break the bank" ...Like a Louis Vuitton knock off. 😉


I know the cards have bandwidth for higher res's, my point about the link to the startech adapter was that it specifically states it only supports up to 1900x1200, so the point was more about the adapter's limitations than the card. Just curious, are you getting full native res through that cable? (I'm guessing you are). Thanks for the link, if I get a second CD LCD I'll know to pick one of these up instead of paying a premium.

Feb 2, 2014 9:30 PM in response to Kevin808

Click on the reviews at Newegg, that particular model has been getting reviewed since 2010. Pretty sure I got my first one when 5870 came out, around then.


More than likely you got bad advice from someone.


This is exactly why I brought this out, people don't always get good advice on internet. Frequently as a result of well meaning but not fully informed posters. We all just need to help each other when we see a topic we have relevant info on.


I also have an Atloona that is DL DVI to MDP, works well but always nicer to not double process the signal. It is usually a more stable image from the real DP port than a DVI that has been bumped up.

Apr 2, 2014 5:19 PM in response to Kevin808

Sigh; sorry to be so stupid in all of this...but I am. I've been scanning the posts here and on the internet in general.. and have failed to reach a conclusion.


I have a late 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 and need to upgrade my card... but need to run 10.6.8 for the foreseeable future. I have the "stock" GeForce GT 120... but would like to upgrade the card to boost the Adobe CS6 stuff, along with the Cinema 4D and other things I have. In reviewing this thread... I'm looking to purchasing a GTX 570 2mb style card... but don't know whether that's going to work for me! OWC says the "Mac Edition" GTX 670 only works with OS 10.8.x ... so I'm afraid I'm be-fuddled! (wink)


PLEASE let me know whether the previous recommendations of the GTX 570 card will work without overheating and with more ancient OS? Please?

Apr 2, 2014 9:32 PM in response to Kevin808

Grant Bennet-Alder: THANK YOU for the kind reply; I had read thru these posts... but mis-understood the usage of "Mac Pro Silver Tower (2006-2012)". (okay, okay... it was a "duhhhhhhhhh" moment for me!)


Sigh... this kinda *****! I have all this great software (CS6, Cinema 4D, etc)... yet need to also access legacy files under 10.6.8 (okay... I'm a Freehand person... I admit it!)


I guess it's time to venture forth and start "dual/multi-booting" into 10.7x and 10.8x when I'm doing the CS6/4-D stuff.


So I guess my next question is: can I use both -- one of the newer graphics cards (like the GTX 680) --- AND --- my old "NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 -- so that I can still function in 10.6.8 ... yet gleen the new benefits of CUDA for newer OS? (may seem like a stupid question... but I'm SUCH a newbie!).


Thanks for all of the assistance! BTW: I've already had two additional OS partitions laid out for upgrading to newer OS from 10.6.8.... and even installed the CS6 software onto a completely separate drive so that I can simply "migrate" my 10.6.8 OS onto the new OS partitions... yet ensure that all the partitions point to the CS6 software without duplicating the CS6 suite. THUS.... I'm hopeful that I can run multiple graphics cards to bridge the gap between my ancient 10.6.8 needs and those needs best fulfilled by more modern systems! (grin)


thanks, ~j

Apr 3, 2014 4:45 PM in response to ~jj

Many cards that don't have drivers will CRASH in older OS's and vice versa.


Sometimes the EFI will allow one screen to work but it is not working normally, all rendering will be done by CPU so movements will be jerky, etc. So, best case scenario, a powerful card in 10.9 might be reduced to feeble, single display performance in 10.6.8. The GT120 is NOT powerful and would allow use of 10.6.8 but any app that requires GPU grunt to render would find it of little help.


Believe it or not, a Mac EFI flashed GTX480 might be best solution, it would have boot screens and CUDA/OpenCl in 10.6.8 as well as 10.8-10.9.


If you wish to stick with "official" cards, the Mac Quadro 4000 and Mac GTX285 have drivers in 10.6.8, as does the Mac 5870. It is crucial that you clarify that cards are Mac EFI versions. A PC one will be cheaper but in 10.6.8 they are of little use.

Apr 4, 2014 9:10 AM in response to DPArt

DPArt: Thank You and Grant Bennet-Alder SO MUCH for such awesome guidance! I was struggling to come up with a smart solution... and you've guided me there. My needs/experience doesn't justify the cost of something like the Quadro yet... so I wanted something that could boost performance... but work with all OS. Again... thank you so much for simplifying my options... and taking the sting out of learning! -jay

May 7, 2014 12:03 AM in response to Kevin808

You can use a GTX 680 FTW 4GB edition in your mac pro early 2009. I am and i have EFI boot, and quad monitor support. Best card ever for the Mac Pro IMHO.


Link : http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1603260&highlight=gtx+680

If you try using the nvflash you get a pcie mismatch error you will have to use the method here from the cmd prompt.

Link 2 : http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1603260&highlight=gtx+680&page=4

In link 2 go to post number 95 for a step by step using the cmd prompt if you get pcie mismatch error.

Hope this helps, it isn't hard and you will have you EFI boot screen.

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