Why can't Apple develop a stylus that functional for precision drawing.

I have read them. And I've had posts deleted for violating them. More than once.

amphiprion, don't sweat it. If you look back thru this thread you'll see definitively that this is their game, deggie, Meg and a few others, they just do this. It get them off. If I were to say what I really think of these people, I would definitely be violating the terms of use.

We are in fact Apple customers, essentially discussing the iPad. For those doing more technical or artistic tasks with the iPad (or trying to with what we have), discussing an accessory we feel is missing from an Apple product is in fact discussing the existing product.

I also seriously doubt Apple would build and maintain a forum and not monitor it. This forum is a wealth of customer feedback. To suggest that Apple doesn't read any of this is just as stupid as saying they don't read the answers to the surveys they send out.

Apple provides a direct path for folks who have good ideas for enhancing the current product line as well as ideas for furture development. It's called Apple Feedback. This is not a Pinterest site for sharing your happy finds, nor a social networking site for bouncing ideas back and forth between like-minded creative-types.

It is a support forum designed to help people with actual problems - not good "blue-sky" ideas.

So, please, make the most of your efforts and share your ideas directly with someone who might be able to do something with them - Apple.

As you indicated, I'm fairly certain that Apple does monitor these forums, but I can assure you that what catches their attention are issues and problems which appear to be rampant.

R&D discussions simply do not have the urgency nor frequency to draw anyone's attention who is simply scanning the site for red flags.

So, please do share your ideas with Apple:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

No need to run down members of the forum who are just relaying the same information to you concerning the time and space you are wasting by posting those ideas here....we can't help you. We don't speculate. We don't engage in blue-sky discussions or what-ifs. We help people who are having problems with the products and devices that are out there in the real Apple world today....

Cheers,

GB

Trust me, except for the moderators (who can't read everything and rely on help from users to police here) and engineers who sometimes visit huge threads regarding technical problems, such as shortened battery life after an iOS upgrade (always a popular thread and I did run profiling software on my iPhone 3G at the request of an engineer) there is no one else monitoring this discussion forum. The site is just too huge and it would require far, far too many people. And since the Terms of Use CLEARLY spell out it is a technical support site, and Apple has set up a feedback site, why would try to mine anything else from here.

In this thread there are eight people here discussing an accessory that they want. There is one thread farther up where a poster explained the difference in screen technologies that limited the type of stylus that can be used with iOS devices. Apple engineers would be quite aware of this limitation.

So, given the 8 people here, out of the millions of iDevices sold, and the hundreds of thousands of people who have posted on ASC, would Apple really spend millions of dollars redesigning the product and the iOS so 8 people will continue to buy the product? Or would Apple be better served to let those 8 people go to a competitive product that has the thin stylus they want?

It is possible that in the future better capacitive digitizers and oleophobic screens will be available that coupled with the now available Bluetooth technology that will allow for finer styli (baby fingers?) and pressure sensitivity (which the BT stylus can now do). But since Mr. Jobs made it clear when the iPhone was released he wanted to move from the stylus, and Apple has never created one, not sure that is going to be in the near future.

Why have the excellent posts been deleted? Very pertinent to this thread - "Why Apple don't produce a precision stylus"

I think Apple have no right to jail us in their tiny little, contrained, "you-the-end-user-can't-be-allowed-to-decide-what-YOU-want-nor-be-creative" world, moving us forward one tiny step at a time as they see fit, while we have a desire to move forward in leaps and bounds.

While Apple makes superb hardware, it is still lacking in many, many areas. For example, and getting to the source of this post, having a 15 mm nib (finger) as a writing and drawing tool, and also having probably one of the worst virtual keyboards ever is unbelievable (software, I know). I mean, 2 input methods and they're both crap 😮 !

I have read them. And I've had posts deleted for violating them. More than once.

That doesn't make it right, acceptable, or even tolerable.

Maz K wrote:

I think Apple have no right to jail us in their tiny little, contrained, "you-the-end-user-can't-be-allowed-to-decide-what-YOU-want-nor-be-creative" world, moving us forward one tiny step at a time as they see fit, while we have a desire to move forward in leaps and bounds.

Why are you ranting in a user to user help forum? You've already been pointed in the right direction for sharing your invaluable product ideas:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

BTW, The iPad was designed as an end user consumer level product that did away with the stylus. Surprised a "high tech pro" would complain that it is not a task specific professional product.

Because the title of the thread is Why Apple can't develop a stylus for precision drawing.

That's one of the reasons Peter. Ranting???? OK Peter, you're the man!

BTW, I haven't an invaluable product idea which is why I don't use the Apple feedback site. I'm following this thread because someone asked a question about a pen and I contributed to the thread. Apple not developing a pen as described and the quote you quoted are very relevant and connected to the subject.

Maz

Have you frustrated stylus users heard of micofiber cleaning cloths. keeping the screen and stylus clean can make all the difference

Direct and to the point.

I'll go out and buy one.

Well Maz,

Peter wrote:

Why are you ranting in a user to user help forum? You've already been pointed in the right direction for sharing your invaluable product ideas:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/

Maz K wrote:

Because the title of the thread is Why Apple can't develop a stylus for precision drawing.

That's one of the reasons Peter. Ranting???? OK Peter, you're the man!

BTW, I haven't an invaluable product idea which is why I don't use the Apple feedback site. I'm following this thread because someone asked a question about a pen and I contributed to the thread. Apple not developing a pen as described and the quote you quoted are very relevant and connected to the subject.

Maz

The Title of the thread pretty much says it all.....it is a question asking for speculation as to what Apple does or does not do. That is the POINT, my man.....This is a USER to USER form designed to answer questions and issues that Apple users have concerning their existing products. It is not a Putblic Opinion forum, it is not a forum designed to give people a platform unpn which to vent their considerable frustrations about what magical things Apple has or has not done.....

WE cannot help you with your query. We don't know the answer. We don't choose to speculate on your answer. Nor do we wish to engage endlessly in disucussions attempting to get you to understand that your rantings are falling on deaf ears here. WE DON'T KNOW....

If someone were asking for the best stylus available to do the job at this moment in time, then responders on this formu would be able to share what they know based on their experience with said instruments. Beyond that....it is unknown and unknowable.

If you want to have an esoteric discussion about why the perfect stylus has not been developed by Apple yet, find a forum that is designed to entertain and discuss those things ad nauseum.

In the mean time, take your idea to someone who cares.....we don't. This forum is neither deeply perused by Apple, nor do we work for or answer to Apple. We answer to the rules of our forum, and do our best to stick to them.

We would like to spend our considerable, valuable (volunteered) time, doing what we signed up to do here. Help people. Not banter with disgruntled people who only find satisfaction in portraying Apple as the big bad demon.

I am a big Apple fan, but I am not under the misguided impression that they are perfect....not by a long shot....with the exeption of the OSX and IOS systems, and most of the base apps, I think Apple should stay away from application development (like browsers, office products, and e-readers). There are other companies out there that do that, and only that, for their livelihood. I perfer to use their Mac-enabled products on my Apple stuff whenever possible because it makes my life easier.

Apple is not in the business of making styli. Maybe someday they will venture into doing that, but right now, they are fairly busy cleaning up realease bugs, developing new products, and working on the next big thing.....

There are, however, an abundance of companies who do make styli. Take your ideas to one of them. Let them know what you see as lacking in the current bunch, and what you'd really like to see in a future release of such.

Pick your battles, my friend. The one you are waging here is lost. There is notihging more to be gotten by continuing to hammer on Apple and all of it's shortfalls (in your opinion). If you really feel the need to have a rant - take it to the papers, take it to the Judge, take it anywhere but here.

There is nothing more to say....FINI ALREADY!

GB

amphiprion_ocellaris wrote:

I have read them. And I've had posts deleted for violating them. More than once.

That doesn't make it right, acceptable, or even tolerable.

I've never understood where this idea that anything and everything on the internet is, or should be, governed by some high and supreme principle of free speech. Nothing about the internet has ever really been about free speech, ever (I've been using the internet literally since its inception, and before that, bitnet and network content has never been wholly public or open).

Internet sites are owned by individuals, corporations and governements. Just as you cannot say or do anything you wish inside those entities physical properties, you cannot do so within their virtual properties. Owners and landlords have always had freedom to set rules, and to tell anyone who refuses to abide by them to leave. You voluntarily joined these forums, at which time you agreed to abide by their terms.

If you find you cannot say what you wish on these forums, then either find an alternate forum that does tolerate or allow your speech, or start your own web site. But what you consider right or acceptable really is a moot point here - you don't own these forums, so you don't get to say. None of us do - we either abide by the terms, or our posts will be regulated. We are always free to stop coming and posting here, or to post elsewhere. But when here, we abide by and accept the terms of the owner of this web site and its content.

9 days left to iPad 5 release...

Badly hope Apple has got a surprise for who (lots!) is waiting for a more precise input option... an excellent pen.

I know it's difficult, but... Fingers crossed.

Where are you getting the information a new iPad will be released in 9 days?

Apple has made no such announcement