Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When your Gmail is very old and gets a lot of spam, you have to do some additional filtering, but your mostly right.

For me it's also a kind of "aesthetic" issue to see my googlemail around deep inside of my Apple "universe", while I try to avoid google services wherever I can.

Csound1 wrote:

bluefox34 wrote:

Yes you pretty much need to maintain a non-apple email address. Which is a weak security design and is unique to apple.

Please explain how that constitutes weak security?

You can't figure it out?

I already explained to you here on this thread two days ago (Oct 7, 2014 4:58 AM):

bluefox34 wrote:

So the issue is that apple requires you to maintain an email account elsewhere for their Apple ID account and email service. Most people aren't interested in maintaining two separate email accounts. Furthermore, it weakens the security because now you have two places to get hacked instead of one. Apple is alone in doing it this way. With the recent nude celebrity fiasco, you would think that apple would want to tighten up their security wherever they could but they don't seem interested.

and here (Sep 16, 2014 3:50 PM)

bluefox34 wrote:

Agreed that Apple is shortsighted for designing such a system in the first place where the security of you account depends on two parties (Apple and other email provider) instead of just one(Apple). It is a headache for security minded users.

How would hacking the account used for the Apple ID compromise security, you have not explained anything yet. How would I gain access to your iCloud account by hacking your other account, how would I know what your Apple ID even is? It would be easier to guess if it were an iCloud address, less choices.

Can you explain how security is compromised by using a different text string for the user ID of the account?

bluefox34 wrote:

You can't figure it out?

Don't bother explaining to Csound1. He has been a troll in this thread earlier, trying to cause trouble. It's best not to feed the trolls. Most people know exactly what you mean by how it is a security issue.

Ski22 wrote:

Don't bother explaining to Csound1. He has been a troll in this thread earlier, trying to cause trouble. Most people know exactly what you mean by how it is a security issue.

Thanks, I'll ignore him from here on.

So what exactly is involed in maintaining a non-apple email address? This whole "maintaining" theme keeps coming back. It sounds like a lot of work! Does it require some sort of hourly attending? Perhaps walking it or cleaning up after it?

Oh, and you still never did explain the added security risk. I'm curious how that works, too.

Maintaining a non-Apple email address (i.e., an Apple ID that uses an email address other than @me.com or @mac.com) is as simple as signing onto the Apple ID with the email address you no longer want to use, clicking on the EDIT button in Manage your Apple ID, and changing it to a new, valid, non-Apple email address. You then verify it, and you are done.

Before you EDIT your Apple ID to a new email address, you should sign out of iCloud, Messages, FaceTime, and Mail on your iOS devices and your computer. Once you have made the change and have verified the new Apple ID email address, you sign back onto those adds with the new Apple ID.

Simple.

GB

The problem is the non-apple email address I'm forced to use as a primary email address for Apple, is an unused email address. Apple forces you to use a non-apple email address as a primary email address for Apple specific correspondence.

gail from maine wrote:

Maintaining a non-Apple email address (i.e., an Apple ID that uses an email address other than @me.com or @mac.com) is as simple as signing onto the Apple ID with the email address you no longer want to use, clicking on the EDIT button in Manage your Apple ID, and changing it to a new, valid, non-Apple email address. You then verify it, and you are done.

Before you EDIT your Apple ID to a new email address, you should sign out of iCloud, Messages, FaceTime, and Mail on your iOS devices and your computer. Once you have made the change and have verified the new Apple ID email address, you sign back onto those adds with the new Apple ID.

Simple.

GB

Instead of all of the above, why not make it simple and let you use an apple-owned address?

That was not the question I was responding to. My response was specifically addressed to the vast majority of people who have non-Apple domain Apple IDs. In fact, the instructions I provided can only be used with a non-domain Apple ID. I have an @me.com Apple ID. I cannot change it.

And again, not sure if this is not the case with non-Apple domain email addresses, but I get all Apple mail to both my @me.com address and my @iCloud.com address. So, not really sure about why Ski22 is not getting the Apple emails to his iCloud.com address.....

GB

gail from maine wrote:

And again, not sure if this is not the case with non-Apple domain email addresses, but I get all Apple mail to both my @me.com address and my @iCloud.com address. So, not really sure about why Ski22 is not getting the Apple emails to his iCloud.com address.....

GB

Per an Apple senior adviser I talked to today, Apple changed their policy and now requires a 3rd party email address for the primary email address for Apple correspondence. Please read the previous messages in this thread. And the https://appleid.apple.com/ website to manage the primary email address for Apple correspondence enforces this new policy!! Consider yourself lucky you got in before the policy change. This is the issue!! And a very stupid decision on Apple's part!!!

I'm jealous that you have an @me.com Apple ID! You must have set it up relatively recently (last couple of years).

I have an old/defunct email as my Apple ID, but at least I was able to make my primary email my current @me.com address. Sounds like Apple does not even allow that anymore.

I'm a long-time Apple user (and fan), and even I can't quite understand why Apple restricts what can and can't be used as Apple ID and primary email address.

Imp68 wrote:

So what exactly is involed in maintaining a non-apple email address?

5 minutes work to set it up, then nothing.

Oh, and you still never did explain the added security risk. I'm curious how that works, too.

Unfortunately some of these posters don't know how to answer questions, they just spout whatever is in their heads in the assumption that if presented often enough one of us will be dumb enough to believe it.

That doesn't seem to be working out well though.

gail from maine wrote:

Actually, I've had it since I purchased my iPhone 4 in 2010....

When iCloud first came out, and the Mobile Me service was being eliminated, @me.com users had the option to set up the iCloud account using their @me.com address which then reactivated it. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this doesn't ever change.... 😐 I really like my @me.com address - it is easy to remember, and seems to be more seamless with iCloud.com....

I have a mac.com address, I have had it for more than 12 years 🙂 because of that I also have a me.com and an icloud.com option if I want to use them, but no 🙂

This domain succession (mac/me/icloud) goes back beyond Mobile Me or DotMac, it debuted with iTools, in the year 2000