Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When I want to enter my iCloud email address (like foo@icloud.com) as my Apple ID, the system at appleid.apple.com tells me that I can't use an email address with a domain owned by Apple as my Apple ID which I find odd enough. I tried to create a new Apple ID through appleid.apple.com just to see what happens and even then it says that you cannot use an email address with an Apple domain.


It becomes even more odd when you consider that, if I'm not wrong, you can very well create a new Apple ID and use a new @icloud.com email address if you do it with an iPhone.


I can use my iCloud address as the primary email address of my Apple ID account so it's not a huge problem, but it still annoys me a little bit that the name of my Apple ID has to continue being my obsolete Gmail address.


Does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on Oct 15, 2012 8:45 AM

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Posted on Jun 19, 2013 11:42 AM

If you had an existing (non-apple) apple id before icloud, apple gave people the ability to have an icloud (email) account attached to it. By signing into an icloud enabled device, and checking off mail, you are given the option to create an @icloud address (formerly an @me.com one), that is associated with that apple id. This allowed people to continue to use the apple id that had all their purchases, and have an @icloud address. You can sign into any apple services using this address and pretty much ignore the originating non-apple address if you want. If that originating address is no longer valid... well, that's not really apples fault. You can maintain it, or create a new non-apple address to change it to (only reason you'd really need to do this is for the sake of rescue emails).


If you don't have an apple id, and wanted to use icloud, you can create an icloud apple id by signing into an icloud enabled device. This is an apple id in its own right, and therefore cannot be used to change the address of an existing non-apple id.


This is essentially how it works, and is pretty easy to understand.


Now, what you guys are wanting is a new feature, which DOES make sense. I'm with you guys on this. You want to be able to remove the non-apple address from your accounts, and just use the @icloud address permanently, without a non-apple address. After all, new icloud signups can do this...


Anyone wanting this new feature should request it at apple.com/feedback.

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Dec 22, 2016 6:26 PM in response to bluefox34

"If you don't want it to be a gmail address, then set up another free email, and change your Apple ID to that email address."


Well, the email that one probably would want to use wouldn't be available and one would not be able to access purchased content. Just because that's how it's designed doesn't mean that it's a good design or cannot be changed. Pretty much every other service that I use let's me do that.

Dec 22, 2016 9:30 PM in response to bluefox34

The issue here is that you don't understand how Apple IDs and emails work. You can have a gmail account as your Apple ID, and then not use it anymore, and it will still be your Apple ID. You can use your linked iCloud account as your primary email and only use that for emails. If you sign into iCloud and set up your email via iCloud, then you can have all of your mail sent to your iCloud.com address.


Maybe you should take a look at the post I provided several posts above the one you commented on. It's all explained there. Also, I have no idea why Apple has decided to protect Apple domain names, but they have. I also have no idea if it would be "technically simple" to change that approach....


You also can set up a brand new Apple ID as an iCloud.com email address. If you want to use that ID exclusively, you can set up Family Sharing with your old ID so that you will still have access to purchases done on your old Apple ID.



GB

Dec 22, 2016 9:26 PM in response to littleipsum

I am not sure what you mean by "the email that one probably would want to use wouldn't be available". Why would you think that? And what does that have to do with anything? You do not have to use that email address for anything except your Apple ID. You can use your linked iCloud email address for email.


And if you edit your existing Apple account to that email, then your purchased content is a non-issue since you are using the same Apple account. You only lose access to purchases when you set up a brand new Apple ID.


And I didn't give an opinion as to whether it was a good design or not. It just is how it works, and it is not likely to change anytime soon.


Also, there is nothing that prevents you from setting up a new Apple ID with an iCloud email address, and then using that Apple ID for iCloud and iCloud functions like Mail, Messages, and FaceTime. Then you can still use your old ID for the iTunes & App Store.


Conversely, you can use Family Sharing as I have explained in the post above.


GB

Dec 28, 2016 11:37 PM in response to Roger Wilmut1

I'm not insulting her and I'm not ranting at her. I do however find it rather insulting to be repeatedly told that I simply "don't understand how it works" and that the issues that I've described "have [nothing] to do with anything" after having described the issues earlier in this thread based on my experience and after spending quite some time working through some of them with Apple Support.

Dec 29, 2016 7:58 PM in response to littleipsum

Since I am not responding to you in the post you are replying to, you don't need to comment. This was a new poster, and since we find that many people posting never read the thread, I am repeating what the answer to the question is. Sorry, but that is how it is. That is the answer. No matter whether you like it or not, there is no other answer that we can give you or anyone else asking the question.


You have been advised to the best of our ability. We can do no more for you. A new answer is not going to appear here, so beyond providing feedback to Apple, not sure why you are persisting with this. We volunteer here to provide people with the best information we have. Providing that information is not trolling, it is doing what we volunteer our time to do - provide the alternatives to questions that people have. So, again, just because you don't like the answer is no reason to take it out on us.


GB

Jan 10, 2017 9:20 AM in response to daanodinot

This was always the case for me. Attempted on Mac w/ Safari & Chrome. iPhone Safari & Chrome. Win7 Chrome. I never received the error message. I just gave up on this. I use my iCloud email to sign in for everything & it shows the iCloud email as my ID for most services (FaceTime, iCloud settings pane, Home Sharing, etc.) Only the iTunes store shows the true primary email address. I went the route of using a different email as the primary but in reality it's only a safeguard for recovery. I switched all linked/external services to use my iCloud email so it acts as my primary email and phased out the super-totally-awesome email I made when I was ~12.

Jan 10, 2017 9:34 AM in response to daanodinot

I guess I'm not sure what you mean. It can be used as a primary address? It can login to all Apple services - and can be used for Facebook/Twitter/LinkedIn etc, etc. It just cannot be set as a primary email for the AppleID. Recovery email addresses are required anyways so in reality you would still need a backup. (? - maybe not with 2FA & phone# but not 100% on this)

Jan 10, 2017 10:55 AM in response to fanboyfanboy

fanboyfanboy wrote:


Recovery email addresses are required anyways so in reality you would still need a backup. (? - maybe not with 2FA & phone# but not 100% on this)

If you put a Recovery email on your Apple account, it has to be a totally different address than the Apple ID or any of the alias email addresses on the account. So, needs to be a completely different address not already associated with that Apple account in any way.


For 2SV, there is a Recovery Key, and for 2FA, there is a Recovery process, so neither even provide a place to put a Rescue email address.


Cheers!


GB

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