Why can't I use my iCloud email address as my Apple ID

When I want to enter my iCloud email address (like foo@icloud.com) as my Apple ID, the system at appleid.apple.com tells me that I can't use an email address with a domain owned by Apple as my Apple ID which I find odd enough. I tried to create a new Apple ID through appleid.apple.com just to see what happens and even then it says that you cannot use an email address with an Apple domain.


It becomes even more odd when you consider that, if I'm not wrong, you can very well create a new Apple ID and use a new @icloud.com email address if you do it with an iPhone.


I can use my iCloud address as the primary email address of my Apple ID account so it's not a huge problem, but it still annoys me a little bit that the name of my Apple ID has to continue being my obsolete Gmail address.


Does anyone have more information on this?

Posted on Oct 15, 2012 8:45 AM

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Posted on Jun 19, 2013 11:42 AM

If you had an existing (non-apple) apple id before icloud, apple gave people the ability to have an icloud (email) account attached to it. By signing into an icloud enabled device, and checking off mail, you are given the option to create an @icloud address (formerly an @me.com one), that is associated with that apple id. This allowed people to continue to use the apple id that had all their purchases, and have an @icloud address. You can sign into any apple services using this address and pretty much ignore the originating non-apple address if you want. If that originating address is no longer valid... well, that's not really apples fault. You can maintain it, or create a new non-apple address to change it to (only reason you'd really need to do this is for the sake of rescue emails).


If you don't have an apple id, and wanted to use icloud, you can create an icloud apple id by signing into an icloud enabled device. This is an apple id in its own right, and therefore cannot be used to change the address of an existing non-apple id.


This is essentially how it works, and is pretty easy to understand.


Now, what you guys are wanting is a new feature, which DOES make sense. I'm with you guys on this. You want to be able to remove the non-apple address from your accounts, and just use the @icloud address permanently, without a non-apple address. After all, new icloud signups can do this...


Anyone wanting this new feature should request it at apple.com/feedback.

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Jan 1, 2014 2:59 PM in response to Imp68

The 3rd party email cannot be ignored. It shows up at various places every time I open the "settings" in my iOS device. It shows up as my caller ID on iMessages from time to time, even though I repeatedly try and turn it off. It shows up in my iTunes accout. It shows up on my sales receipts. It shows up everywhere. The 3rd part email address is like a cockroach that just will not die. I don't understand why Apple with it's "walled garden" is so insistent that we retain our Yahoo, Hotmail, or Gmail accounts.

Jan 13, 2014 6:53 AM in response to date palm

It's only half the solution.... The problem is when you buy anything with your appleID (iTunes, Apple.com, etc.) the reciept and shipping info is sent to that 3rd party email address that I never even check anymore. Why they can't (or don't want to) do the code work to allow this change is rediculous. If someone that sets up an AppleID for the first time does not have to use a 3rd party email address (except for optional recovery purposes) and I cannot (even though I have had my ID since 2007) and have been a loyal paying customer is just plain stupid!

Jan 14, 2014 9:25 PM in response to Woakley5

Yeah, the only way to get an Apple ID where your iCloud address is the name of your Apple ID is to create it via the initial setup process of an iOS device. That's why this is so mysterious: Why does Apple allow it when creating the Apple ID via one process (iOS setup) but not via the other process (web interface)?


And of course: for existing users, also using an iOS device to create the ID is not an option as long as you already have any purchases on your Apple ID because you would not be able to transfer them to the newly created one.

Jan 22, 2014 6:17 PM in response to stabesm

I can guarantee apple understands the issue. They aren't stupid. I imagine there is much that would need to be changed to the infrastructure to accommodate what older account holders want.


In between kicking and screaming over needing to simply have a secondary email address you don't have to use, you may want to provide feedback at apple.com/feedback. Ranting here on a user to user forum resolves nothing.

Jan 22, 2014 11:32 PM in response to Imp68

Guys, I don't know how but I've done it!!


I complained because I was forced to use a dormant google mail account and all I did was log into iCloud and changed my email address to my iCloud.com address and it's allowed me to do it.


I advise you give it a go!


Good luck


Matt

Mar 3, 2014 3:16 PM in response to Imp68

My children bought us an iMac and an iPad. We had a Dell with AT&T DSL and Yahoo home. I tried to sign up for their new All-Access program which uses one password. Then they said we still needed a password for the individjual members of the All-Access family. Prety soon I forgot my passowrd for Yahoo. I ended up in a chat situation trying to remember or create a password that would get me back on Yahoo. Instead the Chat agent set me up with a temporary password thast I could use until I created a new one. At the same time my old Yahoo finance lportfolio and email contacts were deleted and I was knocked off my network. I have spent several hours on support systems and chat sessions, but get nothing but a runaround. I am trying to change my Apple ID to one that doesn't contain SBC Global.net. I wanted to simply change the SBC Global to iCloud, since I had changed my email to iCloud -- fightirish@icloud.com. So I need some other words to complete an acceptable ID. I don't want to go back to SBC, even though I own nearly 700 chares of AT&T stock. My wife worked for old Ohio Bell many years ago. We have AT&T DSL, landline and mobile lphones. I'm 79; could I drop Geezer in there in place of SBC Global? Sorry to be so windy, but I'm really frustrated. My wife is very happy with her iPad. We juast enjoyed watching our grandson's lacrosse game that was streamed in from MÅ. We hope to watch the rest of the games on a TV with a Chromecast.


Jim Weber

Massillon OH

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