Apple screws Ipad 3 customers with iPad 4

Absolutely agree with everything that's been said on here! How can apple do this to me, I only got the 'new ipad' on OCTOBER 17TH and it wasn't bought directly from an apple store. Guess that means no upgrade and I've just wasted my money on an out-of-date product.

Well that's the first and now LAST apple product I'll be buying

At least I had the latest apple product for a whole 6 days :/

Why did you not try to return it then? What does your iPad 3 not do

now that it did then? How is this Apple's fault when the return policy

is governed by the the retailer you decided to purchase from?

I Didn't try to return it because I have only just found out about the ipad 4, and it was given to me as a present (which was ordered 2-3 days in advance) meaning that it is past the 30-day return policy.

Also, it's not that I'm unhappy with the product I already have, it's just frustrating to know that a lot of money has been spent so I could have the latest ipad,only to find out that there is a newer, slightly better product now being sold at the same price

I am sooo ****** off at Apple now, I just bought IPad3couple mnths ago and now it is an old one.

this is the last time I ever buy anything from Apple.

that is rediculous.. very disappointing.

You're right! How dare they release a newer product! Even if they only released a new iPad every five years, you'd STILL be whining if you got an older one 15 days before! Get over it. We don't need to listen to this.

Bsono wrote:

I am sooo ****** off at Apple now, I just bought IPad3couple mnths ago and now it is an old one.

Before you bought your iPad did you fill out the "Whiners Release" form to let Apple know that you were buying a new iPad? It tells Apple that another whiner is about to buy a new iPad, so that they know not to release new product for at least 6 months. If you don't fill out the form, then how is Apple supposed to know that another whiner is about to buy something?

Bsono wrote:

this is the last time I ever buy anything from Apple.

Really? 😁 And where exactly are you going to go? Android does the same thing, infact they are even worse. ALL high-tech companies do this as it’s the nature of the market. For example; on July 17th Google and Asus brought out the Nexus 7. The biggest you could get it in was 16GB for 249. There was also a 8GB version for 199. Not more than several months (a mere 104 days) later they released a model with twice the memory (32GB) for the same price! Wonder how those who bought the 16GB version felt? Also, the 8GB version was completly discontinued. With only a 104 day lifecycle, I wonder how those who bought the 8GB version felt? So here’s the bottom line; if you can’t handle the fast pace of new high-tech products, then don’t buy any high-tech products. Period! All high-tech companies do this and news flash - all high-tech companies will continue to do this.

Key word; high-tech.

"this is the last time I ever buy anything from Apple."

Tim and the EMT are wringing their hands in angst.

MyMac8MyPC wrote:

Bsono wrote:

this is the last time I ever buy anything from Apple.

Really? 😁 And where exactly are you going to go? Android does the same thing, infact they are even worse. ALL high-tech companies do this as it’s the nature of the market. For example; on July 17th Google and Asus brought out the Nexus 7. The biggest you could get it in was 16GB for 249. There was also a 8GB version for 199. Not more than several months (a mere 104 days) later they released a model with twice the memory (32GB) for the same price! Wonder how those who bought the 16GB version felt? Also, the 8GB version was completly discontinued. With only a 104 day lifecycle, I wonder how those who bought the 8GB version felt? So here’s the bottom line; if you can’t handle the fast pace of new high-tech products, then don’t buy any high-tech products. Period! All high-tech companies do this and news flash - all high-tech companies will continue to do this.

Key word; high-tech.

MyMac...

How is this a productive reply?

I am actually extremely peeved with Apple myself, for both the iPad 4 AND the stupid new lightning adapter with lack of accessory support. The latest cycle of releases has not been properly thought out and you can tell it lacks any contact with the end user.

Issue 1) If you going to release a new docking/charging adapter ENSURE that there is adequate warning to authorised accessory makers so that there is actually a range of docking accessories and chargers to support your end users needs (This is business 101)

Issue 2) Apple have thrown their "update" cycle to the wind here, and that isn't acceptable, Apples reputation is that it's products will normally continue to hold their own in the market of 'high-tech gadgets' for at least 1 year, if the iPad 3 wasn't up to scratch it should never have been released. (I personally am happy with my 3rd gen and would only consider buying the mini due to convenience on the train)

However all of these factors show that Apple have lost more than flair with the death of Steve Jobs, it appears they've also lost a great deal of business sense as launching a new connector port without any form of accessory range (apart of a usless adapter) is just fool-hardy, and i suspect they would have sold a lot more iPhone 5's had accesories been available from the off.

"i suspect they would have sold a lot more iPhone 5's had accesories been available from the off."

Not sure at all what you mean by "from the off". Regardless, there have been several reports about the sales of iPhone 5 handsets, and none of them mentioned accessories.

Mill4n wrote:

How is this a productive reply?

How is it not?

Mill4n wrote:

the stupid new lightning adapter with lack of accessory support.

The only thing stupid are those who jump to conclusions as Apple makes a lightning to 30 pin adapter. Anything available for the 30 pin is usable with the lightning.

Mill4n wrote:

If you going to release a new docking/charging adapter ENSURE that there is adequate warning to authorised accessory makers so that there is actually a range of docking accessories and chargers to support your end users needs

Your "issue" is based on assumption. You have no proof that 3rd party manufactures didn't know about the new Lightning connector, especially in the light that Apple made it clear that the 30 pin connector was obsolete. Apple has blocked no licensing to produce these new adapters. What you don't know, because you decided to whine here instead of doing any research on the matter, is that these cables contain special computer CHIPS along with a digital-to-analog converter (DAC). They are not just pins and wires like traditional cables and adapters. It's up to 3rd party manufactures to manufacture these chips and DAC's correctly. These chips are required so that special feature sets can work properly. There are already two adapters available (Lightning to 30-pin Adapter, and Lightning to 30-pin Adapter with cable). A USB adapter is included at no charge with the iPhone. The computer chips are also needed because there are 30 pins in the old cable and nine in the new (plus the new Lighting connector is reversible). These new cables allow you to charge your idevice, use USB, and make all audio features available.

There is also a lot of misinformation about these cables, including information from Cult of Mac and CNN which INCORRECTLY state that because Lighting is a digital connector that analog audio will not work. Again, this is incorrect and only confuses consumers about the Lighting cables all the more. Analog audio works perfectly with the new Lightning cables. Bose, JBL, Bowers & Wilkins, and Bang & Olufsen are also already working on accessories for the new Lightning connector. There is also the fact that trends now show that people simply aren't using iPhone, iPods, iPads as they used to. Things they used to do with a cable can now be done wirelessly. Bluetooth for speakers, headphones; Wi-Fi for audio, syncing; and iCloud for downloading content wirelessly and backuping up iDevices. In other words, most people simply don't need physical connections as much as they used to. The question shouldn't be about docking adapters, but the question is: “Why are you docking a iPhone at all?” People haven’t had to connect a iPhone or a iPad to a Mac or PC to sync or back it up since iOS 5 came out last October. Backing up is easily done via Wi-Fi, and there are apps that allow streaming of music, including Apple’s free remote app which lets you control iTunes on a computer from your phone and/or iPad, not to mention AirPlay. So if you don’t have to plug in to sync, backup, play music, or watch video, what do you really need to plug in for? Basically just charging, and there will even be wireless charging in the future.

Mill4n wrote:

Apple have thrown their "update" cycle to the wind here, and that isn't acceptable

ALL high-tech manufactures have as shown in my example above. The only thing that's unacceptable is that apparently you never read the terms of use before agreeing to them with every Apple product. If you had read them you would have known that Apple (and every other manufacture) is allowed to update their products as needed without any ones permission. It's a standard agreement all companies use. Why any customer of any product would think they can dictate when updates come out is absurd.

Mill4n wrote:

Apples reputation is that it's products will normally continue to hold their own in the market of 'high-tech gadgets' for at least 1 year,

Again, that's your assumption. Out of the three iPads only one was around for a year or more and that's the iPad 2, but even if your assumption was correct there are still many factors for why Apple needed to bring out the iPad 4 when they did. Apple handled the matter correctly. You only know a few things about the matter, but Apple knows the full story. Let Apple run Apple. BTW Tim Cook handled the matter exactly as uncle Steve would have.

Mind to give me an example of a company releasing their flagship product more than once in a single fiscal year?

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Just so you're aware Apple's flagship product(s) are their computers and OS X. Not sure what desktops, laptops and operating systems have to do with this thread. As for examples of other companies, they have been previously posted.

Apple is looking long term, not short term. Anyone who has followed Apple knows that they typically release new product (whatever has their biggest buzz) around Sept/Oct. This drives incredible sales revenue and has historically helped drive Apples growth. All you need to do is study the quarterly revue to confirm this fact.

"the stupid new lightning adapter with lack of accessory support."

Simultaneous with the release of Apple's adapter, third-party vendors also made adapters available. As a matter of fact, they were considerably cheaper than Apple's. Too, Apple cannot force third-parties to provide accessories. Finally, Apple walks a fine line regarding accessory availability, and compromising its IP. Several years a go, an Apple employee received several million dollars in bribes from one accessory vendor to get a early product information. It did not end well for him.

"Mind to give me an example of a company releasing their flagship product more than once in a single fiscal year?"

Your assumption that Apple is just like any other company is wrong.