LTE not available on LTE enabled network in Belgium (Belgacom)

If it works, goody for you. There is no guarantee that it will work, however, if you're not on a supported network.

The list IS up to date... If it were out of date by 2 years, then how did the column for LTE support get there when there were no LTE iPhones 2 years ago?

That holy list of yours, is nothing more than a guideline. I recommend you to do some research about unlocked phones and European consumer and competition laws. Then you would understand that such a list has very few value. LTE = LTE. It's as simple as that. That's what they call a standard.

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KevinBelgium wrote:

Apple still provides us with the best hardware yet

Don't say things if you don't know what you're talking about.

I suggest you to do some comparisons before posting lies:

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4910&idPhone2=4958

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4910&idPhone2=4238

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4910&idPhone2=4967

The rest of your post I will ignore to leave you some dignity.

That guideline, as you put it, is Apple's official statement of what features are supported on which networks.

There is nothing more that can be added here. Apple's statement is final as far as these forums are concerned.

If you believe that the law should enter into it, then contact a lawyer. ANY discussion on those lines is forbidden by the TOS. Or haven't you figured that out after having multiple posts deleted by the hosts for threatening legal action?

Maybe you should try reading the standards documents some time. LTE does not necessarily = LTE.

Did Apple advertise that the phone would work with YOUR network? No... As a matter of fact, they did not. YOU chose to ASSUME that it would work.

I'll say it again. If the TOS for these forums are unacceptable to you, then go elsewhere.

The iphone5 and LTE it's exactly the same if you bought a car and you can use the 5'gear only if you go to a specific fuel pump !

The LTE is impleted in the iphone, but apple restricted the usage with carrier limitation.

Here in Europe, a complaint to "Union europeene" for restricting of liberty of usage" (restriction à la libre concurrence et utilisation in french) must resolve this problem...

I believe that's the result of a lack of innovation during the past years.

Even Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak suggests that Microsoft is currently more innovative than Apple:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/news/a438756/steve-wozniak-microsoft-is-more-in novative-than-apple.html

Funny to see people quoting a guy who hasn't innovated anything in decades on how innovating Apple is at the moment. The truth is that Woz doesn't know what the secret projects of Apple are. and if you look at the history of Apple you will see they don't innovate on a yearly basis not even on a 2 year basis. What are the innovations that Apple made in the last decade? A user friendly mp3 player, a user friendly smartphone and the first tablet that works. Just 3 innovations in 10 years and the last one was only 2 years ago.

Back on topic: I think it's a good thing that Apple forces carriers to deliver quality services to customers. Now we know what the real problem is: Belgacom has an inferior LTE network.

Hi all. It seems there's an operator or two in this thread. Now that the cat's out of the bag regarding Apple testing LTE networks before activating it, does anybody want to share their experience of dealing with Apple? I've just got off the phone with one carrier who's having a tough time trying to get Apple to come test his LTE network. Does anybody know anything about the application process for this? Perhaps there's a queue?

We knew about Apple testing networks for some time, but all certified carriers have signed NDAs to not talk about it. We just had to wait for someone to break the NDA. So I'm wondering if there's any carriers out there that haven't yet signed such a contract but have already started discussions?

thanks.

james

KiltedTim, many people install beta software without being bound by a non-disclosure agreement, because they bought a UDID registration somewhere. So the only thing I would like to know, is if LTE works for Proximus with the latest beta or not. Also, there is nothing about "unreleased software" in the Apple Support Communities Use Agreement.

modular747: Thanks for trying to contribute to this topic, but might as well have saved the effort, as your reaction is of no value at all. Go study some EU law and then come back. The world is bigger than the USA, you know.

Actually, I do know enough about EU law to know that you are as abjectly ignorant of it as everything else you post. Your "position" that somehow Apple is obligated to support LTE in whatever local carrier that occurs to you is no more than 100% self-serving fabrication.

If Apple wants to sell an LTE phone, they should adhere to the LTE standard. There's still something like "fair competition", which means they may not lock out certain carriers. Also, advertising LTE capabilities while the device cannot connect to the available LTE network is illegal (see Australian iPad 4G case). Don't talk about things you don't know anything about, you're only embarrassing yourself.

Total nonsense. Bovine excrement of the highest purity. If the carrier doesn't support LTE to the correct standard, the phone manufacturer has no obligation to support their substandard service. It is you and your corrupt &amp; lying troll mates who are digging themselves even deeper. Surrounding yourself with the cognatively challenged doesn't raise you up to the rest of the world.

@modular747:

Proximus supports the official LTE 1800 MHz standard, just like the iPhone 5. If you would actually have read this topic, instead of just jumping in to troll, you would have known that Apple programmed the iPhone 5 in such a way that they need to give their permission for every LTE network before the iPhone 5 can connect to it.

@jRix:

Now THAT's interesting!

I'm very well aware if what's been going on. The fact remains that Apple (or any other phone manufacturer) has the right to test and approve any carrier before officially supporting it. The fact that the carrier (or even YOU) claims the sevice is compliant is irrelevant. Your ranting and sniveling about Apple not supporting Proximous LTE until they tested it is the trolling here. It's completely legal and appropriat for Apple to do so. .