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netniks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

I can't minimize iTunes 11 window by double-clicking on the title bar. It's as if minimizing the full window to the new mini-player has wiped out this functionality.


iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.2), unreleased iMacs
  • Stephen Spark Level 4 Level 4 (2,415 points)

    Only way to minimize it to the dock is clicking the button, the second one from the top left corner.

  • Mike Johnson12 Level 5 Level 5 (6,395 points)

    Upper right corner is an icon - rectangle in a larger rectangle - click on that and you will get the mini -player.

     

    MJ

  • netniks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks for the feedback, Stephen and MJ. It's just interesting to me that iTunes 11 is now an exception to what I thought was a global setting to minimize a window to the dock. I think that Apple did a great job of streamlining the appearance of iTunes, so I think that my original question is more of an observation and along the line of, "is this where Apple is headed, removing the double-click to minimize feature?"

     

    For anyone else who might read this, the global setting for minimizing a window by means of a double-tap to the title bar, here is the System Preferences > Dock window:

     

    Screen Shot 2012-11-30 at 5.51.12 AM.png

     

    I have used this minimize window feature since the days of old, but I must be in the minority.

     

    thanks!

    Todd

  • CaffeineIV Level 2 Level 2 (175 points)

    I reported this as a bug to Apple. AFAIC, a global setting is a GLOBAL setting. If my Dock prefs say double-click should work, and all my apps DO work this way (Apple and 3rd party), then iTunes 11 must not be working correctly.

  • Erik Stone Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Thanks Caffeine for reporting it so I don't have to:)  Total bug.  I'm not sure Apple really cares, though.  The last bug I reported back in Leopard, since hasn't been fixed. (The drag and drop from the Preview sidebar, for multiple, selected images, doesn't work)

     

    I also use the double click for itunes, and it's annoying that it's broken now.

  • johnwisdom Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I also use the double click to minimize regularly. I find it odd and annoying that they either took it away or its a bug and they messed up.. either way I hope they add it back.

  • JGi11 Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I've been finding a lot of complaints about iTunes 11 and I don't really have any except that I can't minimize with the double click.  I use it on everything and have for years.  Sadly, I found that some people don't know this function exists.  I can't imagine.  CaffeineIV is absolutely right about it being a Global setting that should work on everything when you have it selected in prefs.  Hope this is considered a bug and gets fixed.

  • netniks Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    If OS X and iOS converge at some point in the forseeable future, then I could imagine Apple asking its users to adapt, as well. I didn't have any issues making the switch to "natural scrolling", but perhaps that's because I'm not being asked to include any extra moves in my behavior (or, the real-world analog to "natural scrolling" is, well, just natural).

     

    Going to the menu bar and pulling down the menu to click on "Minimize" versus minimizing a window via a double-click feels like I'm being asked to make a bigger behavioral change. If this change was made by design, and is not a bug,... then I would just be glad to know that I have to adapt and not hold out for this feature to reappear in a newer version of iTunes.

  • Erik Stone Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Luckly, Command-M still works.

  • macelfy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    i agree that this is an annoyance.  i kept thinking, "if i just go to the right place in the title bar, i'll surely find the place where double-click will minimize."  i think i clicked around for a minute or so - no luck.

     

    sigh.

     

    i've been using this feature to minimize for years - it's the quickest by far for this operation (much quicker than moving the cursor over to the "-" button and clicking, or using the Window->Minimize pulldown, or Command-M).  for those of us that have many applications and windows open at once, optimizing the amount of time we use doing these kinds of things is important.

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,695 points)

    netniks wrote:

     

    I can't minimize iTunes 11 window by double-clicking on the title bar.

    Because there is no title bar to click in iTunes 11.

  • macelfy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    >Because there is no title bar to click in iTunes 11.

     

    I would have thought the upper area which contains the Close, Minimize, Maximize, Miniplayer, and other Maximize buttons/Icons would have been considered the "title bar" for iTunes, at least conceptually if not formally.

     

    if they've done away with the title bar entirely (as a formal element of the UI for the application), that's another bad design decision, i think.

     

    in any case, this is semantics, whether there is a formally defined "title bar" or not, they could have left the functionality that if you double-click in the upper part of the window, it will minimize.  and by the "upper part of the window" i mean the bits outlined in red in this image: iTunes_minimize.png

  • Chris CA Level 9 Level 9 (77,695 points)

    It's called a title bar because it has the title of the open document in it.

     

    It had also been removed in a prior version of iTunes but was put back in the next version.

     

    if they've done away with the title bar entirely (as a formal element of the UI for the application), that's another bad design decision, i think.

     

    in any case, this is semantics, whether there is a formally defined "title bar" or not, they could have left the functionality that if you double-click in the upper part of the window, it will minimize.  and by the "upper part of the window" i mean the bits outlined in red in this image:

    Suggestions here -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • macelfy Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    > It's called a title bar because it has the title of the open document in it.

     

    still mostly semantics.  the app can be made to minimize when double-clicked in the areas i pointed out.

     

    fitt's law tells you that it's much more efficient in general to have a larger area to click in, and shorter distance to move, which the current UI for iTunes violates badly.

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