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What are your thoughts on the New iTunes 11?

I for one am not very impressed! You lose cover flow, and the ability to resize your album art. Unlike previous versions where everything is not in just one area now your searching over the whole itunes for what you need to do. Its cluttered and instead of just editing one album your stuck at looking at all the other distractions instead of what your trying to edit. What are all of your thoughts on this new itunes?

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion, i7 16gb ram

Posted on Nov 29, 2012 9:11 PM

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Feb 19, 2013 9:50 PM in response to Drew Reece (Re:co)

I dont know about that. What do they even have these moderated for if they just leave em out to go wild with?

And I've heard here & there over the past year or two where Apple has taken feedback and accepted it based upon things we've written (and other items) to use to make decisions.


I have submitted feedback the "official" way but if that goes anything like the way everything has gone just in the past 3 months...I know there's a guy at HQ blowing his nose on a print out of my complaints.


This reminds me of something. There's this company called Zynga - I play one of their games. I have demo'd 3 to 4 of their others but only for a few minutes each, as part of promos for the game that I do play. Every one of Zynga's games is horribly, atrociously run. Oh if you havent experienced it yourself, you just cannot imagine the atrocities. And as bad as it is, their employees (programmers, customer service, etc.) are that much worse. OK so here's what I was thinking of: They had this whole stock buyout thing last yearish. I was likening this Apple thing to that because a little thought bubble formed above my head & I started imagining guys from there doing a thing where they half-passed it through their whole careers just barely doing their jobs (heh...jobs!) and then when the big payoff came they took the money and ran. They are still in business but their games are horrendous, their customer service is whatever word you can use to describe something that's 4 steps past horrendous (ex: I write in that say...my in-game currency is missing. I get a response from (insert Spanish name here) & he says: I am sorry to hear that you are unable to access your farm. Please know that our technicians are working on a fix & that things should be back to normal eventually." AKA nobody cares, we wont be working on your case nor will you be hearing back from us.
Apple is starting to make me feel like Z did. Like they're just doing the bare minimum to stick around until they no longer need to stick around because they got a little bit of money & they're good to go, thanks.

Feb 20, 2013 6:18 AM in response to Porf

Alrighty back up your files and hold on to your skivvies we have an update for the Mac this morning...they are calling it simpler and the best ever. We'll see...


One thing that must make changing iTunes a bit more difficult is that it is the primary interface for the iPhone and it works quite well in that regard I have to say.


I'll be optimistic 😎

Feb 20, 2013 7:12 AM in response to verbcrunch

Apple says this about what's new in the update: "This update adds a new Composers view for music, improves responsiveness when syncing playlists with a large number of songs, and fixes an issue where purchases may not show up in your iTunes library. This update also includes other stability and performance improvements."


Although Apple calls it a "Composers view," as far as I can tell it's simply an additional sorting field in the Column Browser on top of the Songs view (if you have the Column Browser enabled). It's better than nothing, particularly for Classical music fans, but this is a very, very minor additional feature. Am I wrong?


As with most software that Apple screws up (Final Cut Pro, iMovie, Maps, now iTunes), it will take many months or even years of updates to get the product back to a place where I would prefer it to what I had before.

Feb 23, 2013 7:53 AM in response to Porf

Does anyone have this issue?


The window of iTunes 11 is wider than the screen of my 13-inch MBP and it is impossible to make it narrower: If I grab the corner to make the window smaller, I reach a limit when I lose the bi-directional arrow and I cannot go smaller?


Anyone with the same bad experience? Please help!

Feb 23, 2013 10:17 AM in response to BTB1306

BTB1306 wrote:

The window of iTunes 11 is wider than the screen of my 13-inch MBP and it is impossible to make it narrower:

Clicking the green button in the upper right corner will resize the window to fit your screen. You may have to hit it a couple of times since it toggles.


In earlier versions of iTunes you can hold down "option" and click the green button to resize to fit. in iTunes 11 you no longer have to hold down "option" since that button is no longer used to toggle into the mini-player.

Feb 23, 2013 12:38 PM in response to Porf

A Big Failure!!!


This is by far the worst update I've ever encountered!


After my backup and proceeding to download and install, It ended up with an update failure which forced me to restore my iphone (5) to factory settings.


I thought I was lucky to have made a backup but after updating from the latter, it gave me more rude surprises.....


More than half of my apps went 'missing'. For example, my Scramble and Whatsapp failed to update. Anyway no big deal, just find them on itunes and download again. But there are apps that became non existant overnight on itunes, like the Snail Mail and Horse Frenzy games which my kids still plays. I had that with me since 3GS 3 years ago!


The only solace is that I still have my 3GS with all my apps intact but where do I go from here?


Honestly, I've never seen Apple screw up so badly till now.

Feb 25, 2013 3:25 AM in response to BopCat

If you never used Cover Flow, bully for you, but some of us out here DO use it--A LOT. Maybe you didn't understand that it was simply album list view---turned sideways. Seriously.


It helps to be able to tap some pictures if you've forgotten the exact data (album, song) or are looking for a lot of works with the same data (date added/modified, Comments, etc). You can tap on the arrow to scroll from album to album quickly, until you find what you're looking for in the list below. There have also been a lot of times when what I was looking for was on an unknown single-disk album by a certain search criteria, and I didn't have to scroll through all the tracks of a multi-disk album to get through the list. The album list view didn't make it as easy to get to and see as much of the track data that I needed to look at as Cover Flow does.


Finally, it's awesome for someone like my 73 year old mother, who wants to listen to some music while she's waiting for me to make her breakfast and tells me there was this jazz song she liked that I've played before; however, she can't remember much about title or artist, and she isn't very competent at computer anything. She has a good memory for visual images, though, so if she can see a big enough picture of the cover, she can find what she's look for, really quickly. Album list was confusing to her for some reason, but with Cover Flow, she can flip through the images, and then she can look at the list below to find her song. It's almost like looking through a crate of LPs, and she understans that, perfectly well. All I have to do is run a search for 'jazz' or 'Mom Songs', and she can take it from there.


So there are some good uses of cover flow out there, if you knew what to use it for. Or have someone living with you who struggles with computers.

Feb 25, 2013 7:51 AM in response to Paul Richards4

Paul Richards4 wrote:


what's Dark Grid View?


Exactly what it sounds like …

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/59660/Dark-grid.png


It means your retinas are not being scorched by the bright background - it also helps on displays that suffer from 'short term burn in'. My Apple Cinema Display has 'ghosts' of old windows that appears after they have been closed, it's worse on windows with high contrast, sadly Apple don't think about this (or we should all just upgrade older hardware because the newest products are now flawless?!).

Feb 25, 2013 11:32 AM in response to Porf

This is horrific.


I'm a long-time, experienced Apple user, and I am horribly frustrated. I'm not upset because features changed or I can't find my favorite feature; I'm upset because this software takes around 4 minutes to load, it's bloated, I get spinning beach balls for tasks that used to take fractions of a second, and the GUI is so patronizingly gloopy that I feel like I'm experiencing Windows XP for the first time all over again.


It would take an enormous amount of effort to downgrade to iTunes 10, and I just don't have the time.


I left Microsoft and the PC world because Apple products were sleeker, more efficient, less cluttered, and all around less of a bloated mess.


Where can I turn now? Linux?


Please stop making "improvements" that are designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator of user intelligence. Please stop stuffing more and more "functionality" into programs that have been working just fine. Please return to the era of Apple computing that gave multimedia professionals an advantage and a comfortable working experience.

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